What's the difference?
The workers are illegal and anything concerning an illegal worker should be illegal.

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-Correct they have no SSN which is why I refuse them as tenants. However, some will borrow a friend or family members SSN and use their name. By law I cannot require them show me a photo ID to prove they are the person they claim but I can require a SSN, references, I can background check, credit report, etc...

-The fear of lawsuits are always a concern but I'm very well covered against any race related lawsuits. With enough properties it's easy to maintain virtually every race as a tenant and also show proof of past tenents being of many races! Most of them were thrilled me me as a landlord and I gave very good references for them when they moved to a new place. Having such a wide variety of tenants present and past would make their suit essentially impossible.

-Our new state laws CAN confiscate a rental property from a landlord if he/she knowingly rented to an illegal immigrant. This law has not been tested in court yet. I am hoping that if I have documentation the tenant provided me that was showing themselves to be legal then my butt would be covered. Besides, there are PLENTY of latino/mexican decent people in my state that are here legally and I have always found them to be great tenants! To be honest my worst tenants have always been section-8 freeloaders!

I know employers that pay several thousand dollars each year per employee for working visas and Democrats keep changing the rules that favor illegal immigration. These employers tell me American citizens do not want these jobs, they do not show for the job interview.....Americans would rather collect welfare and food stamps.

Now, Labor Unions are recruiting illegals, the Federal Govt employs illegals, state Govt employs illegals and protects them.
Employers do not have the authority to control the borders nor control these sanctuary cities, that would be the Govt's job. But it's not fair for the US Govt. to use illegals and then tell employers they can not use illegals.

I think this is all being set up to allow illegals to flood into the US and Congress will allow them to stay here in the US, ONLY if they are members of a Labor Union.

The US Congress is the problem here and they will get a free pass by the media, as employers are demonized and their hands are tied.

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I tend to agree with part of what you're saying. You may be just on to something regarding illegals joining unions. I suppost the illegals use a false SSN to join the union which the Democratically controlled Congress will forgive the illegals for in the future. The Dems just tried to sneak in an amnesty for the illegal agworker, future Democratic voters. So it would be just a matter of time until the Democrats tried to get an amnesty for the illegal union member, future Democratic voters. Yeah. With the corruption in Washington, anything is possible. As far as the employers being demonized, now that's a joke. The employers of illegals are primarily responsible for the illegal Mexican invasion by hiring the illegals, creating the jobs magnet that draws the illegals here.

Union members are required to have a SSN?

There is no doubt jobs are a lure but so are a free education, SS benefits and medcaid.

Democrats keep changing the working visa laws. The employers that try to be legal, can not operate under these changing conditions.

My point, Democrats support illegal immigration and make it difficult for employers to follow the laws, then employers are being arrested. There is some unfairness there.

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I think the only problem is that we are not reducing public and private sector costs with better public policy. We would not have a problem with migrant, black market labor participation if we had a market friendly work visa scheme to deter such practices. With a market friendly work visa scheme, any current illegal would simply be fined and issued a work visa. Illegal problem solved. Any foreign labor market participants could simply apply for a work visa without the expense of the fine. A market friendly work visa could also incorporate catastrophic forms of insurance to reduce those costs to the states and their private sectors.

As for states "cracking down" on people from out of State, they no longer have the authority to enforce customs since it expired in 1808. Section 9: "The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person." That the states are usurping federal authority doesn't surprise me. The states are also denied and disparaged the power and right to "impair the Obligation of Contracts" according to our Constitution.

It only confirms that people don't really have a problem with illegals or illegality, if they can blame it on less fortunate illegals and their illegality.

That some people believe we have a unitary form of federal government is the result of a faulty education system that does not adequately inform the electorate on how their form of federal government was designed to work.

Why is it that some people would prefer communist style forms of prohibition, rather than public policy that achieves what some of the Founding Fathers intended when they wrote the Constitution?

The private sector has a Ninth Amendment power and right to create social contracts that may result in employment. They are not charged with customs enforcement and should not have to incur that expense since they already pay taxes to the federal government.

We could be ensuring that our economy remains the most productive economy in the world instead of lowering our standard of living through the use of command economics better suited to totalitarian regimes.

What we have is a dysfunctional fed gov run by and for special interest ruling elites. Since the dysfunctional fed gov is incapable of dealing with illegal immigration, the states have started to deal with illegal immigration, realizing that if any real enforcement is going to be done, it will have to be done at the states level. The new tough on illegals/tough on the employers of illegals laws such as passed in Arizona and Oklahoma reflect the latest trend in trying to stop the illegal Mexican invasion, that is by removing the jobs magnet created by scumbag employers of illegals who hire illegals. People have realized that the illegal Mexican invasion will never be stopped unless the jobs magnet is removed, and social services to illegals stopped.

Good plan

Until the ACLU sues the states

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Yep, it is a good plan isn't it.

The ACLU has already sued Oklahoma but Oklahoma's tough on the employers of illegals law held up. The ACLU does a pretty good job of going in and overwhelming say a city, with a limited legal budget, but a state is another matter.

Politicians are attacking the employers that are their competition in the private sector and protect themselves from being prosecuted for employing illegals.
Everyone knows Nancy Pelosi employs illegals in her vineyards, yet she is protected!
Politicians have you paying employee benefits for their illegal workers to max their profits.

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