I think we should expect it to happen sooner, rather than later. After all, we are setting a good first world example.

Maybe we should claim that even second world economies are more of a challenge, and they don't have the richest guy in the world over there.

You wanna stop the illegal mexicans ? get an axe and go to work !

I would rather advocate market friendly public policy that can lower our tax burden, than become an illegal and engage in illegalities, merely to complain about less fortunate illegals for their illegalities; while claiming I am a firm believer in the rule-of-law.

Same old hairbrained Calderon approved agenda designed to allow the rest of the Mexican population that wants to to come and work in the US legally. No thanks.

I am not sure you are getting the concept. With market friendly public policy, anyone with sufficient private profit motive could legally participate in the US market for labor.

A work visa would not be a guarantee of a job, only the opportunity to participate legally in the US market for labor.

Any foreign national wanting to become a citizen or legal resident would have to apply through the same government bureaucracy they do now.

I'm talking about your real ulterior Calderon approved motive. First you'll want to give all of the estimated 12 million illegal Mexican scabs already in this country legal work visas. That would be a good first step toward getting them that amnesty by the Democratic politicians. Next opening up unlimited legal visas to work in the US. Where would most of the legal visa requests come from? From our next door neighbor, meheko, of course. All of the entire population of meheko that wanted to could get a legal work visa? Even that portion of the Mexican population that didn't get their legal work visas could just break in, pay a fine, and get a visa. Right?

10 job applicants for every job. Massive unemployment for American citizens. Chaos. Civil unrest. Anarchy.

Of course you'll continue with your insanity. That's your agenda.

It wouldn't be only the current illegals from Mexico, but any illegals from anywhere who are already in the US.

What is wrong with defraying public sector costs from fine revenue generated from over twelve million labor market participants already in the US, and probably already providing labor input to our economy?

Consider this simple math (twelve million times a fine). That could be a basic amount generated from only those specific people who are causing you so much aggravation.

Consider also, that once fined into legality, biometrics could be obtained for each new legal, labor market participant. This could be viewed as a market friendly method of ensuring US sovereignty.

How does simple prohibition collect biometrics from individuals who have no incentive to be caught? Prohibition is more expensive and less capable of ensuring US sovereignty.

Like a broken record........

Letting those illegals already in the US pay a fine and get a legal work visa is just another form of amnesty. One doesn't reward illegality. Sooner or later the Democratic politicians would figure a way to get them amnestied. Or the Democratically controlled Congress might pass a law that allowed any Mexican scab that hadn't killed anyone to waive their fine, before the amnesty. That's what your absurd scheme is all about after all, getting the illegal Mexican scabs already here amnesty.

Why don't we give the states new sanctions laws a chance to get most of those illegal Mexican scabs a chance to self deport. Why not return to common sense in this country and stop letting illegal Mexican scabs take jobs from American citizens.

Why do you consider a work visa scheme that incorporates a fine, as a form of amnesty?

Depending on implementation, a work visa could be valid for one year at a time. The next year, that labor market participant may need to renew their work visa.

The idea of illegal border jumpers being able to just pay a fine and get a legal work visa is absurd to begin with, but it's just a ruse to keep the 20 million illegal aliens in the US while the pro illegal OBL crowd tries to bring about an amnesty. However, you don't reward illegality. Maybe you can't deport 20 million illegal aliens overnight but you remove the jobs magnet that draws them here and keeps them here so that they self deport themselves. E-verification to determine the legal status of workers is the best tool we have right now.