Well your Calderon approved idea is hairbrained. You haven't countered any of the many things I've pointed out that make what you're proposing totally absurd. I'm sure you want to have the last word though.

Just turning illegal immigrants into "legal" immigrants is not going to solve the problem. That was done already, in 1986. All it did was encourage even more illegals to cross the border. We have a means for foreign workers to enter this country and work. They're called "work visas" and come in a number of forms. The problem is between 15 and 20 million people could not be bothered to obtain one.

As far as prohibiting immigration, no one is advocating such a thing. However Americans do want controlled immigration, not an open border, and if they don't get it pretty soon there will be some real problems.

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If you want change stop electing "liberal: democrats and "radical" Republicans. Find and support true Conservatives; those who believe in fiscal responsibilities, individual accountability, and a smaller government, with less control of your daily life.

You are welcome to your opinion, even if it is full of (the) fallacy (of non sequitur).

What is it about potentially lowering our tax burden, and other public and private sector costs do you disagree with?

You may have missed the concept a few posts back. I am not advocating amnesty. We already know that doesn't work or Clay would not currently be having a problem with illegals.

I am advocating market friendly work visas. The current work visa schemes we do have are not very market friendly or we would not have an illegal problem now.

In any event, a more market friendly work visa scheme would simply fine current black market, migrant labor participants and make them legal. Illegal problem solved. It would not be amnesty since no naturalization would be involved. It would however, generate revenue that could lower our tax burden and other public and private sector costs.

I am not sure what a discussion of market friendly work visas has to do with immigration. They are two separate issues. One has to do with the Commerce of labor and the other has to do with Naturalization. Trying to treat them as identical issues will not solve the problem.

Bull Shit. Your "market friendly work visa" would have the same effect as an amnesty. Employers would be required to pay higher wages, plus all the taxes due on those wages. If such were the case foreign workers would not be needed. There are very few jobs "Americans won't do" for a livable wage, and those are the same jobs legal immigrants won't do, for the current wages.
Such a visa would NOT diminish the number of illegals flooding this country.

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If you want change stop electing "liberal: democrats and "radical" Republicans. Find and support true Conservatives; those who believe in fiscal responsibilities, individual accountability, and a smaller government, with less control of your daily life.

You are welcome to your opinion. You probably didn't even read the few posts that explained the concept either.

What is wrong with employers treating all labor market participants as legal labor market participants? A fee or fine would be all that is required, not the police-state functionality of any self-respecting communist or totalitarian state.

I am not sure you really understand the concept or the economics of the issue. Most socialist or communist countries would have a problem dealing with the level of immigration, whether legal or illegal, that has made the US economy, the largest economy in the world.

The potentialities enabled by a market friendly work visa could lower our tax burden, and lower other public and private sector costs. Depending on implementation, it could also facilitate schemes that could enable native labor market participants to not provide traditional labor input to the economy and increase their marketability in the labor market by increasing their skills or education. In other words, market friendly public policy would have the same effect as markets in a mixed market economy; namely, that of improving the standard of living of all market participants.

Getting back on track. The latest state to pass a tough on illegals/tough on the employers of illegals sanction law is South Carolina. The gov of SC is claiming that it's the toughest sanctions law against the employers of illegals to date. Unfortunately, the new sanctions law doesn't require MANDATORY e-verification, just volunteer e-verification. We have yet to see how the mass exodus of illegals from South Carolina compares to the mass exodus of illegals from Arizona, which does have Mandatory e-verification.

Most people, of course, realize that the only way to stop the illegal Mexican invasion is to force the scumbag employers of illegals to stop hiring illegals. Sanction laws won't stop the criminal illegal aliens from breaking in, of course, but it will stop most of the illegals who come looking for a job. Those illegal already here who have been taking jobs from American workers will suddenly be without jobs too and will have to self deport themselves.

The states usurping federal authority on their own does nothing to improve the credibility of the populace of those states. All they are saying, in effect, is that they really don't care about illegals or illegality, as long as they can blame less fortunate illegals and their illegality.

Balderdash. What part of Mexico are you from? The states are saying the the fed gov is corrupt and dysfunctional, saleable to the highest bidder, and bought off and controlled by the employers of illegals to open the floodgates to let in the so called cheap subsidized illegal labor that the employers of illegals require. The states are saying that, obviously, if any enforcement of immigration laws is to be done they are going to have to do it. And the states are starting to do it.

I am from the part of Mexico that was ceded to the US after the Mexican War.

Since when is it ok to become an illegal and engage in illegalities, and then complain about less fortunate illegals?

The authority of the states to enforce naturalization issues in the US expired in 1808.

A market friendly work visa is what will solve the issue of black market, migrant labor in the US. We could be lowering our tax burden and other public and private sector costs. Why do you have issues with raising our standard of living by being more market friendly?