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Old 03-20-2008, 04:28 PM
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As has been demonstrated by Oklahoma, and Arizona, deportation is not necessary. Just take away their employers and their feeling of security, they'll leave on their own.
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Old 03-20-2008, 04:38 PM
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As has been demonstrated by Oklahoma, and Arizona, deportation is not necessary. Just take away their employers and their feeling of security, they'll leave on their own.
And Arizona lost jobs when Denny's decided that under Arizona's draconian laws it would move to Texas the HQ it was planning for Phoenix. Not the only negative ramification reported.
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Old 03-20-2008, 05:06 PM
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And Arizona lost jobs when Denny's decided that under Arizona's draconian laws it would move to Texas the HQ it was planning for Phoenix. Not the only negative ramification reported.
Losing Denny's is not much of a lose, and if they decided to move because of there being fewer illegals, they were no lose at all.

Any company that can not make a profit, without hiring illegal aliens, doesn't deserve to be in business in the first place.
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Old 03-20-2008, 05:16 PM
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You would get a quicker solution if we end the welfare state. Illegals would have very, very little incentive to come here if they where denied tax payer funded services. Such as medical care, public schools, and such.

That is why they stay. They can find jobs in Costa Rica or Canada. They stay in America because the assholes get better services from our tax payers than an American Citizen gets, even.
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Old 03-20-2008, 05:26 PM
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You would get a quicker solution if we end the welfare state. Illegals would have very, very little incentive to come here if they where denied tax payer funded services. Such as medical care, public schools, and such.

That is why they stay. They can find jobs in Costa Rica or Canada. They stay in America because the assholes get better services from our tax payers than an American Citizen gets, even.
and that my friends, is the winning ticket.

Anyway...who eats at Denny's?
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Old 03-20-2008, 08:04 PM
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let's put down the flag and find out what is really going on.first, business said that the reason they left the U.S.A is because of the unions. bullshit. fact: if that was the case, then why does the corporation charge us the same amount of money for goods, when they pay the workers of central America, Asia ect $250.00 to $300.00 a YEAR!!!. GOODS SHOULD BE CHEAPER!!!let's take a look at how those governments are treating these companies. they operate with no environmental laws, no worker safety laws, no minimum wage laws,no worker compensation or unemployment Law's, no child labor laws and they operate tax free.they work people 16 hours, 6 days a week. they primarily hire women and children. school for children is not a law. they are beaten if they do not work fast enough. rape is not out of the ordinary.and the profits that they make, they are given more tax breaks and exemptions here in america.plus, you the tax payer pay for new plants and equipment,subsidised insurance rates, reclamation and irrigation programs,tax breaks, shelters and exemptions.life has been made unbearable for those people where U.S corporations have set up shop. ie Nicaragua, Honduras, Guatemala, Mexico etc, etc.that's why they are here. NO ONE would want to move from their family, friends etc.thank U.S business for making their life hell which caused them to move.NOW, SOLUTION!!!! if there was anybody in government with balls, and who did not have their head up big business ass, they would tell big business, " you suppose to love America, you fly the flag at you're corporate headquarters. but you won't employ it's people. here's what we will do about that.everything that you have manufactured in you're sweatshops, if you do not move back here, in the U.S.A, we will raise you're import duties so high, that no one will be able to purchase those goods back home.but that will never happen. because when a congressmen or senator leave office, they go to work for the very lobbying firms that once lobbied them.what a bunch of whores.
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and arrest all their enablers and sympathizers, including businesses who hire them and politicians who support them, put them in jail, try them for treason, and deport them
You are on the right trail. I am not sure that tring all the employers for treason would work, but if the penalty for employing illegals was the seizure of business and personal assets the employers and slumlords renting to illegals would stop their behavior and the vast majority of illegals would return home on their own.

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Agreed and make all the enablers pay a fine.
Good but, not quite stringent enough. Treat them as we do drug dealers and seize all their assests.

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Well it seems all three presidential candidates would have to be arrested per your theology.

It was just reported on c-span this morning that a bill was before the Senate that would fund the immigration laws starting in 2009 to put some teeth behind the laws. The money is needed, because the truth is very little is spent on illegal immigration, not nearly the money that is needed to round them up and punish businesses that hire them. The law would have the immigration department reporting to Congress and funding being handed out as could be shown there was need to clean up the illegal problem.

Obama and Clinton voted against the funding. McCain never showed up for the vote.
The Three Stooges are are proponents of amnesty for illegals. It is time to send Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe (lawyers on the Three Stooges) packing. Vote for me, Kenneth Gregory Poole for president, just write in my name.

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I don't know why they just don't hire a few of the thousand's of American's out of work to do the job. I am sure they could solve the Illegal problem real quickly.
The Three Stooges are more concerned with making a voting block out of the 20 million illegals in this country. That is why Democratics are trying to make it easy to register with a photo ID on the day of the election without proving citizenship.

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As has been demonstrated by Oklahoma, and Arizona, deportation is not necessary. Just take away their employers and their feeling of security, they'll leave on their own.
Very true. In a city in Pa. it was discovered that cutting off their housing encourages them to leave as well.

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And Arizona lost jobs when Denny's decided that under Arizona's draconian laws it would move to Texas the HQ it was planning for Phoenix. Not the only negative ramification reported.
I am not familiar with that, can you cite your sources. I will say that if being able to use illegals at lower wages is a requirement to keep a company then the state is better off with that company somewhere else.

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You would get a quicker solution if we end the welfare state. Illegals would have very, very little incentive to come here if they where denied tax payer funded services. Such as medical care, public schools, and such.

That is why they stay. They can find jobs in Costa Rica or Canada. They stay in America because the assholes get better services from our tax payers than an American Citizen gets, even.
In Greensboro, Nc, about 40% of the new enrollees onto welfare are Mexican nationals. Judges have decided that Nc has to pay for the education of illegals, and now the Democratics in our state keep pushing for in state tuition for illegals. It is time to take care of OUR children and not the children of illegals. It is time to remember that charity must start at home and that when the Democratics complain there is not adequate spending or schools that they are wrong. With the illegals gone there is far more than enough schools and money to educate the children of legal US citizens.

Liberal Democratic idiots would have us believe that the illegals take jobs Americans are too lazy to do, the illegals only do jobs like busboy, or cook at Denny's. The sad fact is that they are taking factory jobs, construction jobs, and even high tech computer jobs. The illegals take jobs that Americans used to do for more money and benefits, such as healthcare. Idiots like Obama talk about raising them minimum wage, but he will not address the single largest factor lowering real wages, illegal immigrants. The 63k jobs lost in Jan are only 0.5% of the jobs that Obama admits are taken by illegals.

As long as there is 1 American unemployed, as long as there is 1 American on welfare who is capable of working we do NOT need any of the illegal immigrants. Nc just finished the biggest housing boom in state history, during which there was double digit unemployment in the housing industry due to builders using illegals. Construction workers used to earn a good living, now wages are so depressed and work is so rare for American citizens that many workers have had to go to lower paying jobs with few if any benefits.

Go visit Mexico to see what our future holds for We, the People, if the flood of immigrants is not drained from our country. Ask yourself if that is the life you want for your children and grandchildren.
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Old 03-26-2008, 05:51 PM
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Go visit Mexico to see what our future holds for We, the People, if the flood of immigrants is not drained from our country. Ask yourself if that is the life you want for your children and grandchildren.[/quote]

Wise words mexico is a shit hole and the disease ridden shit eaters spread their filth to everything they touch. Just look at the barrios of our major cities.
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Old 03-26-2008, 09:38 PM
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The 13th AMendment has a perfect solution for Illegal Immigartion:

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Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for a crime whereof the party shall have duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Quick solution: every American who can catch an illegal gets to own him for 5 years. After that, he's naturalized and made a citizen.

We'll save an assload on pretend-efforts by the Government to defend our borders. They'll just have to watch for terrorists, which they aren't doing anyway, instead of illegals. WE will be watching for the illegals in GLEE!

Those who want to be here desperately enough to submit to 5 years slavery will probably be worth keeping.
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Old 03-27-2008, 10:05 PM
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As has been demonstrated by Oklahoma, and Arizona, deportation is not necessary. Just take away their employers and their feeling of security, they'll leave on their own.
Passing tough on illegals laws that take away the business license of any repeat offender employer of illegals is clearly the way to go. The result in Arizona and Oklahoma was a mass exodus of illegals from those states. However, most of these illegals didn't go back to Mexico, they just moved to neighboring states. More states will have to come on board with these laws until the desired effect of self deportation of most of these illegals back to where they came from is realized. Cost to the American taxpayer? Zero. INS could then concentrate on just those criminal illegals that aren't going to self deport no matter what.
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