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03-13-2008, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by carsayzylum
Is it difficult? yes. That isn't my point. My point is that Americans need to settle down and be more patient with people in the process of learning English, which incidentally is one of the most difficult languages to learn, full of useless crap. Just don't get pissed when someone new to our country can't speak it yet. They don't have to.
?Es lo dificil? Si. Este no es mi punta. Mi punta es que americanos necesitan relajar y ser mas paciente con gente aprendiendo Ingles, una idioma que es muy dificil aprender, con mucho de pelusa inutil. No se enojaran cuando un immigrante no puede hablarlo bien. Ellos no tienen que.
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Type it again in French, German, Italian, Vietnamese, Chinese, Korean, Cantonese, Arabic, and Zulu. We dont want to be offensive to those immigrants by speaking english either. Heres the point, if youre going to come to this country, learn the language before you do. My relatives did it. If I were to move to Kazakhstan I would learn the language instead of forcing the entire country to speak my language just to make ME feel more comfy.
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03-14-2008, 08:02 PM
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If you want to live in this country then learn the language. If not get out.
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03-14-2008, 08:16 PM
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THERE IS NO LANGUAGE. There is a mainstream language, but everyone keeps referring to it as THE language, and it isn't. Kazakhstan has an official language. We don't. People will learn eventually by being around it, but they don't have to know it when they immigrate. That's why we have communities in America where mainly Chinese, or Spanish, or Yiddish, or Arabic, or ANY other language is spoken. Anyone can come to America and make their life what they want it to be.
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Last edited by carsayzylum; 03-14-2008 at 08:17 PM.
Reason: grammar
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03-14-2008, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by carsayzylum
THERE IS NO LANGUAGE. There is a mainstream language, but everyone keeps referring to it as THE language, and it isn't. Kazakhstan has an official language. We don't. People will learn eventually by being around it, but they don't have to know it when they immigrate. That's why we have communities in America where mainly Chinese, or Spanish, or Yiddish, or Arabic, or ANY other language is spoken. Anyone can come to America and make their life what they want it to be.
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Thats part of the problem, learning English should be a requirement of becoming American, you can't learn, we'll deport your ass, but whining liberals will fight you about that bitches that they are
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03-14-2008, 08:40 PM
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Thats part of the problem, learning English should be a requirement of becoming American, you can't learn, we'll deport your ass, but whining liberals will fight you about that bitches that they are
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No it shouldn't, that would ruin everything that makes us American.
Read my first post, por favor. As I've stated, there is no official languge in our country. If English was, I would agree with you, but it's not, so you might as well learn some patience and deal.
We seem to have forgotten, now that our family lines have been established in America, that ALL of our Ancestors were immigrants. From everywhere. Maybe that's why I feel so strongly about this, my family has only been here for a little less than 100 years. All of the elders in our family still speak Italian, often and well.
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The wretched refuse of your teeming shore-
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
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03-14-2008, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by carsayzylum
No it shouldn't, that would ruin everything that makes us American. all nations that advocated taking on a second language have been demolished within a hundred years, is that what you want, America to be demolished within a year? I thought you were for America.
Read my first post, por favor. As I've stated, there is no official languge in our country. If English was, I would agree with you, but it's not, so you might as well learn some patience and deal. And I'll state again for you, thats the problem, see you just live in this fantasy world where your brainwashed into thinking Americans are free when in reality they are no different then the slaves that lived in slavery we supposedly abolished. Accept reality and recognize the biggest advocates of slavery in the world, they are called Americans, at least the ignorant ones like yourself
We seem to have forgotten, now that our family lines have been established in America, that ALL of our Ancestors were immigrants. From everywhere. Maybe that's why I feel so strongly about this, my family has only been here for a little less than 100 years. All of the elders in our family still speak Italian, often and well.
One more thing:
Bring me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore-
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
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Try bringing a quote from when after America starting advocating slavery, its called relevance.
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03-15-2008, 06:32 AM
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?Tu no aprendes sus idiomas, por que debes ellos aprenden nuestros idioma? Mucho del gente de los EEUU hablan Ingles, pero lo no es nuestro lingua oficiala, como yo dije antes. Si tu aprenderias mas idiomas, tu podras ordenar los mensajes del telefono mas rapido. Y tus antepasados recibieron un bienvenido bueno. ?Por que no damos la cortesia misma a los immigrantes?
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Ok, This post above is the Spanish version of post #4.
If you can press 1 for English and 2 for Spanish then you have to make it fair and press more numbers for more languages.
I welcome immigrants to this country as my ancestors were once immigrants. They came here and did not expect to have everything catered to them.
Anyway, here's how I see it.......If an immigrant does not choose to learn English then they will continue to be a low wage slave and never make progress. They themselves, will suffer.
You are what you make of yourself.
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03-15-2008, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by carsayzylum
Is it difficult? yes. That isn't my point. My point is that Americans need to settle down and be more patient with people in the process of learning English, which incidentally is one of the most difficult languages to learn, full of useless crap. Just don't get pissed when someone new to our country can't speak it yet. They don't have to.
?Es lo dificil? Si. Este no es mi punta. Mi punta es que americanos necesitan relajar y ser mas paciente con gente aprendiendo Ingles, una idioma que es muy dificil aprender, con mucho de pelusa inutil. No se enojaran cuando un immigrante no puede hablarlo bien. Ellos no tienen que.
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Ok, at this point i'm beginning to think that you are using an online language translator.
So tell me, how do you feel about immigrants coming in from countries that dont speak English? Should we start learning all of their languages too.
Maybe we could all quit our jobs and go to school and learn every language on the planet because you dont think that anyone should come here and have to learn English.
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03-15-2008, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Petey
Ok, This post above is the Spanish version of post #4.
If you can press 1 for English and 2 for Spanish then you have to make it fair and press more numbers for more languages.
I welcome immigrants to this country as my ancestors were once immigrants. They came here and did not expect to have everything catered to them.
Anyway, here's how I see it.......If an immigrant does not choose to learn English then they will continue to be a low wage slave and never make progress. They themselves, will suffer. Thats not really true Petey, its estimated by that by 2035 because of all the liberal bitches in my opinion nearly 50 percent of the nation will be spanish, at that rate they really will not be suffering if they don't learn english
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thats true but in this country you are forced to give charity to others too
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03-15-2008, 10:23 AM
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I can't imagine emigrating to another country and not wanting to become fluent in the primary language spoken there as quickly as possible. If I were a citizen of non english speaking country and planned to stay there I'd still want to learn english. English is the primary language of the world whether you like it or not. When we fly into an international airport anywhere in the world the communication between crew and control tower is in english. To argue against knowing english in the 21st century is stupid no matter where you live in this world or what your native language is. To argue so in America is about a light year beyond stupid.
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