my question is why?

why would you get rid of a people who take the jobs that know one wants. "there are taking american's jobs" ok, the only problem with that is that is that the jobs they take are jobs americans believe there to good for. my solution, if your poor and your white, and don't have a job, don't be complaining about immigrants unless you actual applied for a labor job that requires more than standing in front of a desk.



what do you think?

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I think you need to take a look at the jobs illegals are really doing. Like in the construction industry.

Might as well throw in meat packers and many manufacturing jobs where the company has laid-off their high paid workforce and hired illegals at a much lower wage.
The talk of "they are doing jobs Americans wont do" is just that...talk. Talk and propaganda, if you say it enough people may believe it to be true. I live in Texas and I can tell you first hand...it ain't true.

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The whole 'jobs Americans won't do' rational is not only false , it's an absurdly narrow view of the issue.

There are border security effects , health care , welfare , criminal justice , and not least of all , ECONOMIC EFFECTS.

The infrastructure effects (borders , health , etc.) pose logistscal problems , as well as indirect economic problems , in that they COST MONEY TO FUND.

There is a further , MORE DIRECT economic component at play also - The siphoning of DOLLARS out of the American , and into the Mexican economy.

Any way you slice it , ILLEGAL immigration is indefensible.

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True , but how would we stop this, a fence? their are fences around jails and people still get out. Tighter reforms? people will always find loopolls. I believe we have to do something but how. for the person that said he lived in texas, i live in richmond and i can see that immigrants take jobs others won't. every time i see someone cleaning someones lawn, its an immigrant. the point is they take jobs that people won't normally take and for lower wages making more desirable then an american. and not to knock off any white people cause im white too, they work harder then a lot of people i know.

Thoughts?

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I'm not sure what Western Union rates are or how the fees are distributed, but......

I say lets start by imposing a huge rate (tax) on all international transfers & let WU do some of the collecting for us..

I have to collect a sales tax, why can’t they do something of the like???

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Look the jobs Americans wont do might be right but your not putting it in the right context. More like can't take because they don't pay enough to even stay alive. You know a roof over your head food water power etc. etc.. A lot of mexicans like in california take them because they squeeze two or three families into a single apartment or small house etc. get it. See the cost of living went through the roof and the job wages especialy down at that end did not. I have worked in the labor force also back in the mid 90's In california. I worked next to these guys and ya many work hard and many whites are right there next to them working just as hard. But what you don't see is many many cut big corners no insurance med. etc. etc. they also have scams you wouldn't beging to believe. They use every free service you could think of, I worked cable for a while and these guys would steal boxes rig them and sell them after hours and on weekends. There are many other scams but I wont go into it, they could right a book that would make you shit your pants. It is not jobs Americans wont do but ones they can't afford to do for ever because they are not going to live two or three families in one home and raise kids etc. they are looking for better paying jobs. The fence is not designed to stop them why do people not listen. It is a stumbleing block to give the border patrol more time and better chance to catch them. The head of the border patrol in california has said this many times and in places where the fence is up it has worked very well. As far as loop holes from what I have herd and they have reported strongly enfored strait forward laws do miracles. Look at arizona they took the loop whole away. First offense supension of buisness lic. for 10 days second offense is loss of lic.. Now that means that if you piss off an employee or fire one and he wants to get back all he need do is report you for having illegals and you get busted. Or you have lots and lots of citazens that are tiered of the crap and they see it and turn them in etc. etc. It worked becuase they said it looked like a biblical exodus from Arizona when they put the law into affect. Now many are going from Arizona , oklahoma etc. to Texas wich is know as a safe haven to them. I will tell you the lawn mowing thing hey a lot of people would take it over. My wifes cousin has a mowing service here in louisiana and it is not much for a lawn but he makes a real good living off of it. He has a house two nice trucks etc. etc.. Lastly it is no answer to allow them to break the law just because people especialy the govt. uses the excuse they do jobs Americans wont. Maybe the elected officials should have been doing there job and figured out solutions to these things long ago instead of taking the easy way out and not do there job by allowing this illegal activity to go on as an easy solution to the problem.

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I could care less where an Illegal Mexican works. Or for how much pay. My problem is they get my tax dollars for goods and services denied to American Citizens. I don't get public funded healthcare, why should I pay for a non-American. I don't use public schools, why should I pay for an Illegal Mexican's education? Or anyone else, for that matter.

Truth is, They don't have a right to my money, it is enraging enough that Americans get my money to pay for there own needs. Yet, they hand it out to non-Americans, as well.

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Well hell stav they give millions of our dollars away to other countries every day what about that. I say screw that also myself.

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There is a reason they shouldn't be here. THEY ARE ILLEGAL!!!!!!! I don't care if they take jobs or tax money or anything else. They broke OUR laws to come here and they should be out immediately. or placed on the end of the line to get in. McCain's new idea is pretty good to deal with them.