Originally Posted by pipes

The whole 'jobs Americans won't do' rational is not only false , it's an absurdly narrow view of the issue.

There are border security effects , health care , welfare , criminal justice , and not least of all , ECONOMIC EFFECTS.

The infrastructure effects (borders , health , etc.) pose logistscal problems , as well as indirect economic problems , in that they COST MONEY TO FUND.

There is a further , MORE DIRECT economic component at play also - The siphoning of DOLLARS out of the American , and into the Mexican economy.

Any way you slice it , ILLEGAL immigration is indefensible.

Originally Posted by Khappa09

my question is why?

why would you get rid of a people who take the jobs that know one wants. the only reason nobody wants them is because minimum wage is so low. The solution is to raise minimum wage not import Mexicans. "there are taking american's jobs" ok, the only problem with that is that is that the jobs they take are jobs americans believe there to good for. no they just don't see the point if they can't earn enough to live and their right my solution, if your poor and your white, and don't have a job, don't be complaining about immigrants unless you actual applied for a labor job that requires more than standing in front of a desk. what does being white have to do with it? My solution raise minimum wage



what do you think?

Originally Posted by Khappa09

True , but how would we stop this, a fence? their are fences around jails and people still get out. Not very often, if immigrants were only being successful crossing the border equally to those successful escaping from jails it wouldn't be a issue. Tighter reforms? people will always find loopolls. I believe we have to do something but how. for the person that said he lived in texas, i live in richmond and i can see that immigrants take jobs others won't. because they are willing to live 20 to a house and others are not, if they are a citizen they shouldn't have to every time i see someone cleaning someones lawn, its an immigrant. the point is they take jobs that people won't normally take and for lower wages making more desirable then an american. more desirable for whom, what about all the Americans that are SOL? and not to knock off any white people cause im white too, they work harder then a lot of people i know.

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by World Hegemony

There is a reason they shouldn't be here. THEY ARE ILLEGAL!!!!!!! I don't care if they take jobs or tax money or anything else. They broke OUR laws to come here and they should be out immediately. or placed on the end of the line to get in. McCain's new idea is pretty good to deal with them.

Originally Posted by satv365

McCain won't do anything different that Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan or any president past or present or future, has or will do.

Illegal Immigration will never get fixed by either a Republican or Democrat. We need to cut the social welfare teet out from under there toes, and start denying Constitutional Protections to them.

Originally Posted by Khappa09

my question is why?

why would you get rid of a people who take the jobs that know one wants. "there are taking american's jobs" ok, the only problem with that is that is that the jobs they take are jobs americans believe there to good for. my solution, if your poor and your white, and don't have a job, don't be complaining about immigrants unless you actual applied for a labor job that requires more than standing in front of a desk.

Originally Posted by Khappa09

my question is why?

why would you get rid of a people who take the jobs that know one wants. "there are taking american's jobs" ok, the only problem with that is that is that the jobs they take are jobs americans believe there to good for. my solution, if your poor and your white, and don't have a job, don't be complaining about immigrants unless you actual applied for a labor job that requires more than standing in front of a desk.



what do you think?