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02-15-2008, 01:30 PM
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New Illegal Alien Amnesty
Our opposition didn't wait long to strike again. We knocked down Amnesty bill after Amnesty bill last year. But with the recent success of pro-amnesty Presidential candidates they are emboldened to try again.
The powerful Hispanic Caucus of the U.S. House of Representatives appears to be convincing the House Democratic leadership to go along with their deceptive new Amnesty measure.
Under this bill:
1) Millions of Illegal Aliens would qualify for "five-year" amnesties.
2) Crooked employers who have knowingly hired Illegal Aliens would be given complete immunity from prosecution.
3) The purpose of this new Amnesty is to FOOL the American Voter into believing this is a temporary measure. In fact, the intention of this Amnesty is to make Illegal Aliens undeportable until what they believe will be the second term of a pro-amnesty President.
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02-15-2008, 04:01 PM
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Yet people still vote for Republicans and Democrats. It amazes me.
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02-15-2008, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by satv365
Yet people still vote for Republicans and Democrats. It amazes me.
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Better be glad Republicans are still being elected. They are the only ones who stoped the amnesty programs, last year, and they will be the ones to stop this amnesty as well.
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02-15-2008, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Teak
Better be glad Republicans are still being elected. They are the only ones who stoped the amnesty programs, last year, and they will be the ones to stop this amnesty as well.
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You would think, but they sealed the coffin when they chose McCain.
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02-15-2008, 07:56 PM
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You would think, but they sealed the coffin when they chose McCain.
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That may be, but McCain's policy on illegals is the same as Bush's., and he was stopped by the House. Republicans just need to maintain enough seats to throttle these Democratic goals. Because liberal democrats won't.
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02-15-2008, 09:52 PM
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Would that be his stance of amnesty or his new stance of build the fence and don't talk about amnesty until he gets elected.
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02-15-2008, 11:31 PM
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Would that be his stance of amnesty or his new stance of build the fence and don't talk about amnesty until he gets elected.
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Build what fense? See:The other thread "Congress and the President Punch Holes in the Fence".
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02-15-2008, 11:47 PM
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Build what fense? See:The other thread "Congress and the President Punch Holes in the Fence".
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Ya I just read it so maybe if he wins he will see that it is built anyway but then what good is it just to watch them climb over it. I don't care about building the fence I want to know what he is going to do if they get over it. I use to believe that the best way was to build the fence and then other things After Arizona and oklahoma and others but the strictest being the first two, I am now convinced by results that the best way is strong strict and strictly enforced penalties on those who employ them. I have given up on this I think the best thing is for a dem to get in let amnesty take over then they flood the borders and it gets so bad here in America it is no longer a debate with all these issues it is either do or go down. That seems to be what it is going to take to convince radical liberal people in this country that yell about the illegals rights and humanity for them but what about the poor and over taxed Americans just trying to stay alive or keep a roof over there families head.
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02-16-2008, 01:02 AM
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Ya I just read it so maybe if he wins he will see that it is built anyway but then what good is it just to watch them climb over it. I don't care about building the fence I want to know what he is going to do if they get over it. I use to believe that the best way was to build the fence and then other things After Arizona and oklahoma and others but the strictest being the first two, I am now convinced by results that the best way is strong strict and strictly enforced penalties on those who employ them. I have given up on this I think the best thing is for a dem to get in let amnesty take over then they flood the borders and it gets so bad here in America it is no longer a debate with all these issues it is either do or go down. That seems to be what it is going to take to convince radical liberal people in this country that yell about the illegals rights and humanity for them but what about the poor and over taxed Americans just trying to stay alive or keep a roof over there families head.
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You shuld know, by now, that liberals don't give two hoots about law abiding, tax paying, productive Americans, until they need more money to take care of the other kind of residents we have in this country.
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02-16-2008, 01:08 AM
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You shuld know, by now, that liberals don't give two hoots about law abiding, tax paying, productive Americans, until they need more money to take care of the other kind of residents we have in this country.
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Well I would say that about ALL politicians on both sides.
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