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02-02-2008, 12:41 AM
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Mexico seeks US probe of border tear gas
MEXICO CITY - Mexico has formally requested the United States investigate recent incidents in which Border Patrol officers fired tear gas onto the Mexican side of the border, the government said Thursday.
After being upbraided by the country's top human rights agency for failing to press Washington enough on the issue, Mexico's Foreign Relations Department issued a statement calling the tactic "unacceptable."
The Border Patrol says the tactic is necessary to protect its officers from increasing attacks by people hurling rocks and other objects at them from Mexico.
"Independently of whether these incidents are a response to hostile acts against Border Patrol agents by private citizens on the Mexican side, the Mexican government considers these actions by U.S. federal authorities to be unacceptable," Foreign Relations said in a statement.
The department said it sent a letter to the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City on Jan. 15 requesting "a thorough investigation." It added that a Mexican boy was injured in one of the incidents, but did not give details.
The Border Patrol reported 987 attacks — many with rocks — on its agents during the 12-month period that ended Sept. 30, the most since it began keeping track in the late 1990s.
U.S. officials say they have talked to Mexican authorities about the issue. The Border Patrol recently equipped agents in California and Arizona with a pepper-spray launcher that has a range of more than 200 feet, and says they are only used defensively.
On Wednesday, Mexico's National Human Rights Commission urged the government to do more to stop the incidents and take "urgent and decisive action."
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02-02-2008, 12:43 AM
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I say order another 1000 cases of the stuff.....just in case??
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02-02-2008, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by GoRightAndYouCan'tGoWrong
I say order another 1000 cases of the stuff.....just in case??
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They can throw rocks, but we can't fire tear gas. That amazes me in their thinking. I'm starting to think we should instigate a war, perhaps we could get Baja California and Baja California Sur in war booty.
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02-02-2008, 12:50 AM
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It's like that from every direction. We are just to sit on our hands & do nothing no matter how bad we are attacked..
Ahhh America......
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02-02-2008, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by GoRightAndYouCan'tGoWrong
It's like that from every direction. We are just to sit on our hands & do nothing no matter how bad we are attacked..
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I think this could be solved if we put an incredible amount of pressure on Mexico to reform there own Government and Free up there markets. Getting out of NAFTA would be a start. Trade Sanctions would be a good idea too. Seriously, does anyone buy Ford anymore? Who would miss mexican goods? I don't even like Tequilla...
Sadly, Americans would be demonized for defending our soveriegnty.
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02-02-2008, 01:07 AM
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I think this could be solved if we put an incredible amount of pressure on Mexico to reform there own Government and Free up there markets. Getting out of NAFTA would be a start. Trade Sanctions would be a good idea too. Seriously, does anyone buy Ford anymore? Who would miss mexican goods? I don't even like Tequilla...
Sadly, Americans would be demonized for defending our soveriegnty.
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Trade sanctions are not necessary. Just stop the flow of U.S. earned wages being sent back to Mexico, a 60% surcharge should do nicely, but Western Union might whine, a little.
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02-02-2008, 01:15 AM
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I am with the 1000 more cases of the pepper canasters. We are to sit on our hands and take what ever they choose to do ya well here is a message back to the Mexican consolate from america FUCK OFF! END OF MESSAGE
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02-02-2008, 01:35 AM
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I am with the 1000 more cases of the pepper canasters. We are to sit on our hands and take what ever they choose to do ya well here is a message back to the Mexican consolate from america FUCK OFF! END OF MESSAGE
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It won't take much to rattle theirs cage Shadow, they need us more than we need them & they know it. I say shut Western Union down for a week & they will throw the pepper spray themselves....  
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02-02-2008, 09:34 AM
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I say tell the Mexican goverment that tear gas is only the beginning, just wait till we start firing bullets.
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02-03-2008, 03:31 PM
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I say tell the Mexican goverment that tear gas is only the beginning, just wait till we start firing bullets.
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Bush will never allow that..and watch how Bush folds under these demands.
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