A vote for Democrats=A vote for Amnesty

Badmutha · #11 (**permalink**) 12-19-2007, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by crowonapost

Um selective points are exactly why there's no discourse with you. You are like a creationist making an argument against scientific evolutionary theory. You already have a set conclusion & selectively pull out what you want, emphasize that, ridicule everything based on that & do not attempt to respond to the real overall point. The point being that it's not the politicians it's WE the Americans that enable this illegal situation. See you actually know that to be true but instead of facing that reality you desperately cling to your partial perception & just try to insult me with your shallow & boring rhetoric. It's really weak & rather childish but that's your thing...

So the non-selective point your harping on is--blame Americans--and I beg to differ. We all have some responsibility in this problem(except for you of course)--but its not "We" the people that fail to enforce our laws--its not "We" the people trying to scrap the border fence--and its surely not "We" the people driving the amnesty effort. "We" the people--are in fact the 90% of americans that stand defiant to the numerous liberal attempts to shove amnesty down our thoats.

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I've denied nothing, you deny the fundamentals, your responsibility as a citizen consumer & employer...projection 101.

Of course--you dont deny--just as you dont admit. Liberalism

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Um do you? Since you are the one who Bitches about it the most why don't you do as you delude.

No I dont--just as you dont--just as the majority of America doesnt. Determining Legal status of anyone--is not the responsibility of the consumer--and the consumer is exactly who your trying to blame.

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They are not 'my democratic leaders' I observe beyond your romper room perceptions, I don't live in your cattle perceptions. I don't give a fuck about either football franchise. You need desperately to cling to them otherwise you would have no basis to actually find anything to discuss because then it would be about that more real complicated place called human responsibility. So while you go about blaming one whole group I observe in both parties Americans & judge based on the choices of Americans. If you choose to paint yourself into that little black & white world well that's your mental handicap. To each their own retardation.

Well Crownrade--Who did you vote for? Who are you planning on voting for?Despite all your dancing--tell me what party is driving the amnesty effort? What party is attempting to give illegals free health care--what party is trying to give illegals free legal representation? What party is trying to give free education to illegals? And by free--I mean the wallets of legal citizens (We the people). Like most liberals--you live in the grey--you think easy solutions are impossible--and by no means will you admit any responsibility. As Responsibility and Liberalism have nothing in common.

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Finally I guess you REALLY don't know much about Hispanics in this country....They have generally & often times continue to be more conservative in nature & vote that way but based on much of your writing you rarely seem to venture into the real world so thats not a surprise.

Yes and Im sure you wrote the book on Hispanics. Lets make this real easy for you--if you Senor are an illegal immigrant--would you support those that are trying to give you amnesty--or those that are trying to send you home? Come out of the grey for a moment and face reality.

I am a consumer--I am an employer--and there is very little I can personally do to stop the infestation--but one thing I can do--is cast a vote for someone who stands alongside me--who believes in enforcing the border--who stands against amnesty--who stands against giving our hard earned freedom and country away to criminals--needless to say--democrat leaders will not be getting my vote.

Badmutha · #12 (**permalink**) 12-19-2007, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

Fucking Idiot.

Bush Amnesty Plan Spurs Surge In Illegals

heres two from your own Right wing rag.
WorldNetDaily: Bush snuggles illegal aliens

WorldNetDaily: Petition to Bush: No amnesty for illegals

Now what the fuck...? This doesnt have shit to do with your blind ass Rush limbuagh watching red vs blue bullshit. This is a across the board problem that wont ever get solved cause 90 percent of the retarded fucking Americna populace will not get past the Partisan wing nuts and idiotic antics of Pundits like Limbaugh that you parrot on thise boards.

Well Senor--it was stated in the first post that Bush supports amnesty--but I guess that means you would have had to read it before writing your drive-by post.

Partisan wing nuts? I guess people that support enforcing laws--building a fence--and deporting illegals are wing nuts in your eyes--in the real world they are called conservatives.

crowonapost · #13 (**permalink**) 12-19-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Badmutha

So the non-selective point your harping on is--blame Americans--and I beg to differ. We all have some responsibility in this problem(except for you of course)--but its not "We" the people that fail to enforce our laws--its not "We" the people trying to scrap the border fence--and its surely not "We" the people driving the amnesty effort. "We" the people--are in fact the 90% of americans that stand defiant to the numerous liberal attempts to shove amnesty down our thoats.

Government for & by the people. Stop blaming like a child & get involved whiner.

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Of course--you dont deny--just as you dont admit. Liberalism

There's nothing to deny or admit you just selectively read, if at all & then try to twist it. Making you a continual laughing stock & a dumbmuthaf'r

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No I dont--just as you dont--just as the majority of America doesnt. Determining Legal status of anyone--is not the responsibility of the consumer--and the consumer is exactly who your trying to blame.

For all your obsession over money you seem to have selective amnesia about how it works. the most powerful force in creating change is buying or not. But again you are dumbmuthaf'r

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Well Crownrade--Who did you vote for? Who are you planning on voting for?Despite all your dancing--tell me what party is driving the amnesty effort? What party is attempting to give illegals free health care--what party is trying to give illegals free legal representation? What party is trying to give free education to illegals? And by free--I mean the wallets of legal citizens (We the people). Like most liberals--you live in the grey--you think easy solutions are impossible--and by no means will you admit any responsibility. As Responsibility and Liberalism have nothing in common.

republicrats....figure it out.

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Yes and Im sure you wrote the book on Hispanics. Lets make this real easy for you--if you Senor are an illegal immigrant--would you support those that are trying to give you amnesty--or those that are trying to send you home? Come out of the grey for a moment and face reality.

Obviously a scholar compared to you. hell there was a report on NPR this morning where some Hispanics were speaking about the election & were quite disappointed by the conservatives for not taking them into account. Why because MOST Hispanics have historically voted CONSERVATIVE. That actually are a conservative culture. idiot. You know what there biggest disappointment was Nimrod? Bush. he single handedly ruined it for them & he even spoke Spanish. Now that's fantastical stupidity.

Oh & on your fantasy logic. By & large Hispanics really keep to themselves, Don't talk much to their employers & really avoid conversation with them. Idiot.

Reality is Something you definitely lack.

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I am a consumer--I am an employer--and there is very little I can personally do to stop the infestation--but one thing I can do--is cast a vote for someone who stands alongside me--who believes in enforcing the border--who stands against amnesty--who stands against giving our hard earned freedom and country away to criminals--needless to say--democrat leaders will not be getting my vote.

Um as i stated from the beginning. economics 101 don't buy products made by illegals. No matter who you vote the republicrats will get big money as they continually do from corporate interests & will continue to look the other way.

Amazing for a needy selfish money slut you don't grasp economics 101.

but that's not a surprise you are DumbmuthaF'r.

noneof yourbusiness · #14 (**permalink**) 12-19-2007, 11:46 AM

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Well Senor--it was stated in the first post that Bush supports amnesty--but I guess that means you would have had to read it before writing your drive-by post.

Partisan wing nuts? I guess people that support enforcing laws--building a fence--and deporting illegals are wing nuts in your eyes--in the real world they are called conservatives.

he let in thousands of them> himeself> THer uis no real world you fucked partisan bullshit. Ther sint anybody in the federal goverment willing to compeltely stand against Illetgal immigration ANYWhere. YOur Rush Limbaugh crap is the rrutherst thing form the real world.

Badmutha · #15 (**permalink**) 12-19-2007, 11:46 AM

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It appears a vote for a Republican or a Democrat is a vote for amnesty.

But then badmutha would have to take his head out of his butt to realize that and that is not likely to happen.

Preach--your going to get sent away in tears again. Dont sink to liberal levels of name calling and insults--I thought your strong christian beliefs would keep you above the liberal slime. I dont throw out personal attacks--unless Im attacked first--and it appears your joining in the liberal circle jerk.

wvpeach · #16 (**permalink**) 12-19-2007, 01:35 PM

Who is circle jerking here badmutha???? Seems you have the market cornered on that little habit.

I have yet to hear a politician , except for maybe that Richardson say anything about illegal immigration that makes sense. And they won't let Richardson finish what he says when he starts , so I am not sure about him either.

The title of your thread is misleading and you know it.

" A vote for Democrats is a vote for amnesty"

What you should have entitled it is,do you know any politician from either party that is not for amnesty?
What are the Republicans going to do ? Give them all food stamps and green cards and free passes at the border ? No, I know,..... according to the last Mexican president Fox , He and Bush cooked up a plan to merge the two countries , that is going forward and cannot be stopped.

But why don't you tell us how your beloved Republican candidates plan to handle the illegals badmutha???? Really put some links on here about how Rudy or Romney, or MC Cain plan to handle the illegals .

Last I heard Rudy says New York could not function without the illegals .
Mc Cain says they do jobs that american's wouldn't do if you paid them $50 a hour like pick lettuce .
I'd pick lettuce my entire life for $50 a hour .

So I am listening badmutha tell us what the Republican plan is to deal with the illegals?

Badmutha · #17 (**permalink**) 12-19-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by crowonapost

Government for & by the people. Stop blaming like a child & get involved whiner.

Oh I do--I vote liberals out of office--and vote against their ridiculous insane policies whenever given the chance--and try and promote freedom and responsibility.

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There's nothing to deny or admit you just selectively read, if at all & then try to twist it. Making you a continual laughing stock & a dumbmuthaf'r

What exactly am I twisiting? What am I lying about?--please tell me. I didnt say republicans are the answer--but I will say amnesty is a problem--as are the democrats promoting it.

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For all your obsession over money you seem to have selective amnesia about how it works. the most powerful force in creating change is buying or not. But again you are dumbmuthaf'r

ANd Im sure with every head of lettuce you BUY--you have verified that the produce company employs only legal workers. Every house or apartment that you have lived in--you verified no illegal built or worked on it. Every product that you buy--you first research the business and verify legal status of all employees. You dont do it--I dont--the other 300 million in America dont do it--because its ridiculous--quit blaming the consumer on this one.

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republicrats....figure it out.

Didnt you just label me as selective Crownrade? Well we can stay on your weak talking points--and only your weak talking points as you wish.

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Obviously a scholar compared to you. hell there was a report on NPR this morning where some Hispanics were speaking about the election & were quite disappointed by the conservatives for not taking them into account.

NPR lol--that says it all

This isnt about Hispanics my racist little Crownrade--its about ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Republicans dont go out and cater to specific ethnicities--that role is left to democrats--liberals are always deepy worried about minorities around election time--and only around election time.

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Why because MOST Hispanics have historically voted CONSERVATIVE. That actually are a conservative culture. idiot. You know what there biggest disappointment was Nimrod? Bush. he single handedly ruined it for them & he even spoke Spanish. Now that's fantastical stupidity.

Hispanics tend to be hard workers--and like any sane person--they dont feel its their duty to work hard so they can pay taxes to help support those democrats that freely choose not to support themselves.

But your racism aside--if you were an illegal immigrant--and you saw one party (democrats) pushing for amnesty--and you saw another party (republicans) pushing for a fence--who would you support? When you decide to illegaly vote in the election (maybe with your democrat provided drivers license)--who would you support?

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Oh & on your fantasy logic. By & large Hispanics really keep to themselves, Don't talk much to their employers & really avoid conversation with them. Idiot.

Reality is Something you definitely lack.

So Employees tend to not want to talk to their Boss--since when?--did liberal scientists announce this discovery on NPR this morning.

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Um as i stated from the beginning. economics 101 don't buy products made by illegals. No matter who you vote the republicrats will get big money as they continually do from corporate interests & will continue to look the other way.

Amazing for a needy selfish money slut you don't grasp economics 101.

but that's not a surprise you are DumbmuthaF'r.

Well if your silly argument was concerning free trade--you might have something that resembles a point. But this isnt Made In The USA vs. China. This is Made In The USA vs. Made by illegal immigrants working in the USA.
When the product says Made in the USA on the label--the consumer still doesnt know the legal status of those bringing you the product. You really need to retake economics 101--and show up for class this time--that concludes this lesson.

FedUpAmerican · #18 (**permalink**) 12-19-2007, 05:06 PM

I would much rather see sadmuthas sister continue to turn tricks that see ANYONE become a republican.

cat's meow · #19 (**permalink**) 12-19-2007, 05:11 PM

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Although some of you people (and by you people I mean you libs) are still in denial--the liberal leaders you have elected and empowered are the very ones attempting to drive AMNESTY down America's throat time after time. And regardless of what I say--you mind numb liberal robots will remain in denial and insist its republicans in washington as well as on the farms that are driving the Amnesty train.

So instead--let it come from a liberal elitist--Lou Libby Dobbs. As you probably know--Lou's entire program is devoted to Bush bashing and round-the-clock immigration coverage. Lou's own liberal programing has made it difficult for himself to overcome his own denial. In years past--whenever Lou would place blame for our illegal immigrant infestation--he would always say "this Administration"--or "this Congress"--but considering the numerous democrat attempts at Amnesty.......well just read Libby Lou's own words:

Dobbs: Democratic*hacks embrace lunacy of amnesty - CNN.com

"The same characters are already shoveling the same nonsense that overwhelmed reason in the Democratic Party and the Bush administration last year. Front and center in their march to madness: The bill's sponsor, Senator Ted Kennedy, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Immigration Task Force Rep. Luis Gutierrez and House Judiciary Immigration Subcommittee Chairwoman Zoe Lofgren."

All of them are democrats--90% of Americans oppose amnesty and still these elected liberal elitists try and shove it down our throats. How can any of you--even you die-hard dems--cast another vote for your party? Your vote is so ASSUMED--your party has completely abandond the representation that once attracted you to the party. Your vote is so ASSUMED--they dont even try and hide their amnesty support--they just ASSUME your mind numb liberal robots and will automatically support them.

How can anyone support a party that wants to freely and recklessly give our country away one piece at a time to anyone that enters this country as a criminal?

Even this week--Your democrat controlled Congress is passing a budget that will devote tax dollars to pay scumbag lawyers to represent ILLEGAL imigrants. Your democrat controlled Congress is also busy CUTTING THE FENCE--THE 2006 LAW THAT MANDATED THE BUILDING OF THE FENCE is now on the chopping block. ANd for dessert--the new budget contains around 9,000 earmarks--didnt democrats promise an end to earmarks in 2006? Didnt they promise to bring our troops home? Didnt they promise ....(continues for
73 more broken promises)

And yes George Bush supports Amnesty--so did AlGore and Kerry.

And yes some republicans are amnesty (Grahmnesty) supporters--but who is it thats LEADING the AMNESTY EFFORT? ITS LIBERAL DEMOCRATS--ITS EVERY DEMOCRAT PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE--AND REST ASSURED--IF YOU VOTE DEMOCRAT--YOUR VOTING FOR AMNESTY!

Please name the two presidents who signed immigration...oops...amnesty bills?:

Reagan
Bush

Maybe you might want to do your homework about 'libs' or Republicans when it somes to immigration issues.

Badmutha · #20 (**permalink**) 12-19-2007, 05:50 PM

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Who is circle jerking here badmutha???? Seems you have the market cornered on that little habit.

I have yet to hear a politician , except for maybe that Richardson say anything about illegal immigration that makes sense. And they won't let Richardson finish what he says when he starts , so I am not sure about him either.

Richardson lol--he is such a joke. Have you noticed how many times he says "This is what I would do"--and rarely do you hear "This is what I DID"! Liberals cant run on their record--they run on what they plan on doing--not what they have already done--which is usually nothing.

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The title of your thread is misleading and you know it.

" A vote for Democrats is a vote for amnesty"

Preach--tell me ONE democrat presidential candidate that doesnt support Amnesty.......(crickets chirping).......

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What you should have entitled it is,do you know any politician from either party that is not for amnesty?
What are the Republicans going to do ? Give them all food stamps and green cards and free passes at the border ? No, I know,..... according to the last Mexican president Fox , He and Bush cooked up a plan to merge the two countries , that is going forward and cannot be stopped.
But why don't you tell us how your beloved Republican candidates plan to handle the illegals badmutha???? Really put some links on here about how Rudy or Romney, or MC Cain plan to handle the illegals .

Last I heard Rudy says New York could not function without the illegals .
Mc Cain says they do jobs that american's wouldn't do if you paid them $50 a hour like pick lettuce .
I'd pick lettuce my entire life for $50 a hour .

So I am listening badmutha tell us what the Republican plan is to deal with the illegals?

Here you go Preach--his name is Duncan Hunter--he is a REPUBLICAN presidential candidate responsible for getting the fence project rolling. That is until the democrat controlled congress cuts the fence project as their planning.

WorldNetDaily: Hunter: I will build the fence

So their ya go Preach--now show me something that the democrats have done to stop illegal immigration.

My commendations on your newly found ability to get though an entire post without bringing up christianity or God.