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12-23-2007, 06:43 PM
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Badmutha, maybe I missed it, but how do you reconcile your attack on liberals, with the fact that it was Bush who proposed the amnesty, er, temporary worker program?
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Upton cmon--did you read this thread--I have covered this 5 times already. To summarize--a minority of republicans favor amnesty--while a majority of democrats favor amnesty.
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12-23-2007, 06:54 PM
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Upton cmon--did you read this thread--I have covered this 5 times already. To summarize--a minority of republicans favor amnesty--while a majority of democrats favor amnesty.
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That may be true, but in the case of this president:
A vote for Republican Bush=a vote for amnesty.
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12-23-2007, 06:58 PM
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That may be true, but in the case of this president:
A vote for Republican Bush=a vote for amnesty.
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And I never denied that--Bush isnt a conservative--and he supports amnesty--but--so did AlGore--and so did John Kerry--who fought in vietnam.
But overall--the majority of republicans are against amnesty--just as the majority of democrats support amnesty. And therefore looking at the big picture--we can conlcude--a majority of the time--a vote for democrats is in fact a vote for amnesty.
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12-23-2007, 07:01 PM
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That may be true, but in the case of this president:
A vote for Republican Bush=a vote for amnesty.
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Why can't you folks get it into you heads. BUSH CAN'T RUN AGAIN. He's not the issue, but Pelosie, Reid, Kennedy, Boxer, Feinstein, Wyden, Cantwell, Murray, Martinez, Nelsen, and a whole slew more, will still be in Congress, and they are the issue, when it comes to illegal immigration, and amnesty.
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12-23-2007, 07:13 PM
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Why can't you folks get it into you heads. BUSH CAN'T RUN AGAIN. He's not the issue, but Pelosie, Reid, Kennedy, Boxer, Feinstein, Wyden, Cantwell, Murray, Martinez, Nelsen, and a whole slew more, will still be in Congress, and they are the issue, when it comes to illegal immigration, and amnesty.
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No matter how much you right wingers wish it would go away. Bush is president until Jan. 2009, until then he remains an issue.
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12-23-2007, 07:18 PM
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And I never denied that--Bush isnt a conservative--and he supports amnesty--but--so did AlGore--and so did John Kerry--who fought in vietnam.
But overall--the majority of republicans are against amnesty--just as the majority of democrats support amnesty. And therefore looking at the big picture--we can conlcude--a majority of the time--a vote for democrats is in fact a vote for amnesty.
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My point, Badmutha, is that this is an issue that cuts across party lines. It's not nearly so black and white as you present it.
I assume you voted for Bush twice. If that be the case, then you indirectly are guilty of voting for amnesty yourself.
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12-23-2007, 07:20 PM
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No matter how much you right wingers wish it would go away. Bush is president until Jan. 2009, until then he remains an issue.
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And if left wing liberals live up to past excuses, they will keep him an issue for the next 10-12 years.
I'm just thankful the 5-6 good Democrats joined the good Republicans and stopped all the insane amnesty bills presented over the last two years.
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12-23-2007, 07:22 PM
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BUSH is a DISTRACTING ISSUE
it distractys you from the FAGGOTS BEHIND THIS
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12-23-2007, 07:27 PM
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And if left wing liberals live up to past excuses, they will keep him an issue for the next 10-12 years.
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Much like the right wing still uses Clinton as an excuse for every ill?
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I'm just thankful the 5-6 good Democrats joined the good Republicans and stopped all the insane amnesty bills presented over the last two years.
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Actually, on this last bill, I think it was 11 Democrats. Nevertheless, I agree.
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12-23-2007, 07:40 PM
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Much like the right wing still uses Clinton as an excuse for every ill?
Actually, on this last bill, I think it was 11 Democrats. Nevertheless, I agree.
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Oh, did Billy comedown with an STD.  No really, its hard to get upset, or blame someone as insipid as Clinton.
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