OK, now we've gone a little bit too far ... what's this crap about building a wall along the Canadian border to prevent illegal immigration from Canada? Just how many Canadians are fleeing their country for a "better" life in the U.S.? Heck, they even have public healthcare there and we don't. I just don't see the need for this.

Apparently, the current administration is concerned that there are terrorists hiding in Canada and coming across the border, yet they are unable to point to anyone in particular or even any investigations that have turned up any evidence other than speculation. Yes, Canada probably has its share of nuts, but after all, we have our own homegrown terrorists in the Unabomber, Timothy McVeigh, etc. etc.

Canada is supposed to be our closest ally. What on earth are we doing? Do we really want to alienate the country that is probably the closest to us in ideology, beliefs and culture over some paranoid suspicions of a few stray individuals? I'm sure if Canada has sleeper cells, we've got them too.

This is no way to treat a country that has done nothing to deserve such a slap in face. All we need to do is lose Canada's friendship (and we've done a few things lately that have been mighty close to being downright wrong by acting against Canadian citizens on Canadian soil, plus our government has said some pretty derogatory things about the country) and then who will go in and clear up the mess via peace-keeping forces once we've invaded a country and left it in shambles .... Afghanistan comes to mind ... seems to me a couple of Canadian soldiers were killed there just a short time ago as part of the peace-keeping contingent that went in after we withdrew our troops way back when.

Plus, how the hell are you going to build a fence across Lake Superior? I'd like to see that engineering feat!

Unbelievable!

I haven't heard that, but it's a fact that terrorists have tried to infiltrate here from Canada - we caught a guy driving down planning to plant bombs all throughout Seattle - his car had the bomb material, maps of the city and of the landmarks he was planning to blow up. There are parts of the border that are easy to get across if you just get a small boat. I'm not sure a fence is the best way to do it (certainly not across the whole border) but it makes sense that there could be stretches of it that you would want to fence off. The reason Canada is such a risk is that it has such lax immigration rules - it's extremely easy for someone to come in there and then cross into our border illegally because they will let anyone in without much checking into them.

Well my take on this is that we don't have 20 million Canadians invading our borders like with Mexico. If you look at it from just a security point of view and are trying to deter terrorists, then a wall on both our northern and southern border makes sense. Good fences make good neighbors. However, it makes much more sense to me to wall off our southern border because we already have millions of illegal Mexicans crossing thru there. There is a lot more involved then just security risks when you have one country's citizens violating our borders in massive numbers like that.

I don't think either wall is a good idea. Why do we want to let our country turn into Fortress America? It'd be like one big gated community. I don't think fences work either - you just can't be watching a thousand-mile long border 24/7, and it's not like it's that hard to get around - dig under it, break a hole in it, etc. It's just wasting lots of money we could put towards something else.

I disagree. A wall would be a big deterant to illegal border crossers. When you put a fence up around your house, do you feel like you are alienating your neighbors by doing so? I don't. Its for protection for one thing and nothing wrong with that.

The type of wall they are thinking of erecting is high tech and would be reinforced by more BP and surveillance. It wouldn't be foolproof but if it meant cutting down illegal immigration from a half million a year to 10,000 a year or even much less, it would be worth it. What kind of message are we sending our enemies and would be terrorists that it is so easy to get in here that we have 20 million illegal aliens that have managed to violate our borders? Our credibility as a secure nation must be zilch with the entire world right now.

Oh come ON! The Berlin Wall, the Iron Curtain, THESE THINGS SOUND FAMILIAR? We can't build a fence or a wall anywhere! Not on any of our borders because of what it will develop into. One or two mental patients get caught with bombs? I'm sorry, but how many peolpl,e in the US get caught with bombs every day? Sould we build fences around states or counties, or blocks? Lets put men with rifles on the street corners. THIS IS A COUNTRY OF LIBERTY! Will it end with a little fence between here and Toronto? Of course not.

Do you want to retain that liberty? This liberty is for Americans as it is our country not someone elses. Do you want to be a country of laws or lawlessness? We are a sovereign nation with a right to control our borders from illegal entry whether it be by peasant workers or terrorists. Uncontrolled population growth such that is occuring from millions and millions of illegals from south of our border now is a big negative in every way to this country. Think beyond your PC liberal, brainwashed box and put American citizens first.

If you have to put a wall around yourselves to protect your liberty, then you don't have it at all! This country has supposedly always been about being a haven in the world for those being persecuted for their beliefs, etc. How do you think the US will look to the rest of the world if it starts to wall itself off? It looks WEAK. As someone said, we begin to look like the Soviet Union, putting up walls to keep our citizens in. Just because the intent is to keep the bad guys out doesn't make the appearance of a wall any more damaging to our image throughout the rest of the world. This will not be seen as a sign of strength, but of weakness. Other countries will start to say that we can't control our borders even though we berate them when undesirables slip across their borders and say they should be able to control such things, when their GNP is a miniscule portion of ours.

We've got to find a different way to solve the problem of illegal immigration. The issue here is not illegal immigration, remember. The border fence with Canada was suggested as a means of keeping terrorists out. However, I have yet to hear of any terrorists who snuck across the border from Canada - they may have got past the U.S. Customs and Immigration officials at the border crossing they used, but whose fault is that? Canada? No - it would be our mistake to not have identified them at the border - it makes no difference where they came from. Canada is under no legal obligation to ensure that no terrorists TRY to enter the United States, just as any other country in the world doesn't and shouldn't be expected to take that responsibility. That's OUR responsibility and we're not going to get a whole lot of cooperation or help in that from our closest allies if we start treating them like the enemy.

If you guys know of any concrete cases of avowed terrorists sneaking across the Canadian border at unmanned crossing areas, let me know. I do know of quite a few cases where pretty nasty U.S. citizens snuck into Canada and they had to deal with them. Until then, I think this whole idea is not just a waste of money, but would be a huge blow to our image abroad. We are in danger of looking weaker and weaker every day that we give in to the threat of terrorism by hiding behind walls and fences. Illegal immigration is a separate issue and a separate thread - the issue I raised was the original intent of this planned fence - the terror connection.

It is not a sign of weakness to protect our borders any way we see fit. It is a sign of strength. Having secure borders ensures our liberty, it does not take away from it because we can leave and come back anytime we want to, so where is the loss of liberty? This country has been very generous to immigrants and has taken them in more than any other country on this planet. But our generosity has been abused my millions and million of illegal aliens crossing our southern border. This is not the case with our northern border with Canada. We need to secure our southern border where most of the abuse is occuring and then see what needs to be done with our northern one, if anything. There has been known 135,000 OTM's that have snuck across our southern border from known terrorist countries in recent years. No one knows why they are here or where they are or what their intentions are. This is what is a real threat to our "liberty".

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