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01-18-2007, 08:33 PM
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illegals have destroyed our public schools; they have overloaded our schools and contribute nothing finanacially.....they take what they do make back to Mexico; they are parasites. If you want to immigrate to this country then do it legally......what is it about this they don't understand?
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01-18-2007, 11:37 PM
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sorry but i had to vent.
achem. sorry. it's long.
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Originally Posted by carly
illegals have destroyed our public schools; they have overloaded our schools
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yea i agree. public schools are too crowed. but is that really their fault? i don't think we should blame them for trying to make their life better and trying to end up in a job where they won't underpay them and where the white man won't complain that they only got the job because an employer will pay them less. i think this is more the government's fault. populations will always be growing with or without illegals. thus, we should build more schools.
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Originally Posted by carly
illegals.... contribute nothing finanacially.....they take what they do make back to Mexico; they are parasites.
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but illegals do contribute financially. [maybe not much but they do.] they work under fake social security numbers but they pay taxes just like me and you. plus, what about their living expenses? they pay for things just like we do. and on top of that, their cheap labor helps the economy because since goods are produced at a lower price, people buy more, therefore, helping the economy even more.
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Originally Posted by carly
.....they take what they do make back to Mexico; they are parasites.
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i have no idea what you mean. because no one would come the US get a job, earn a little money, then move back to mexico. the conditions are horrible there. the only thing i could think of is that they send money to their families. but is that really such a horrible thing? if you knew your family was in need, wouldn't you come to their aid any way you can?
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Originally Posted by carly
If you want to immigrate to this country then do it legally......what is it about this they don't understand?
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easier said then done. coming here legally come take months if not years. plus it costs money. if someone is in dire need of improvement in their life, they're not gonna wait around for a year or more trying to get the money & waiting on the government to help. these people don't have much to begin with and if they need help they're gonna take matters into their own hands in the only way they can, illegal immigration.
being the country that others look at as the land of opportunity isn't a bad thing.
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01-18-2007, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by allaboutpeace2006
I live in Oregon. I am a father of one. My son, he is ten months old. I have tried to getting government aid to help me take care of my son and I, but it is almost imposible to get the aid because all of these "illegal aliens". Some of you might say," Well why do you get a better job?,"or" Why dont you go to school?" Well i can't get a better job because immagents come into our country and take all the jobs. I can't go to school because i can't get a better job to pay for it and i can't very much if any finacial aid because all the immagants and illegal aliens come into our country and take all of our government aid.
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Did you consider the fact that you had little education and a poor paying job before you became a father? How dare you do that and expect the people in this country to support you. You breed, you pay. You are not entitled to welfare.
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06-18-2007, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by denisse
achem. sorry. it's long.
yea i agree. public schools are too crowed. but is that really their fault? i don't think we should blame them for trying to make their life better and trying to end up in a job where they won't underpay them and where the white man won't complain that they only got the job because an employer will pay them less. i think this is more the government's fault. populations will always be growing with or without illegals. thus, we should build more schools.
but illegals do contribute financially. [maybe not much but they do.] they work under fake social security numbers but they pay taxes just like me and you. plus, what about their living expenses? they pay for things just like we do. and on top of that, their cheap labor helps the economy because since goods are produced at a lower price, people buy more, therefore, helping the economy even more.
i have no idea what you mean. because no one would come the US get a job, earn a little money, then move back to mexico. the conditions are horrible there. the only thing i could think of is that they send money to their families. but is that really such a horrible thing? if you knew your family was in need, wouldn't you come to their aid any way you can?
easier said then done. coming here legally come take months if not years. plus it costs money. if someone is in dire need of improvement in their life, they're not gonna wait around for a year or more trying to get the money & waiting on the government to help. these people don't have much to begin with and if they need help they're gonna take matters into their own hands in the only way they can, illegal immigration.
being the country that others look at as the land of opportunity isn't a bad thing.
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Can't blame them? are you kidding hell yes we can blame them they are breaking the law and benafiting from it. GET IT I-L-L-E-G-A-L I-M-M-I-G-R-A-N-T, and yes population will grow but not faster than the school districts can keep up with like with the flow of illegal immigration. That is why we have are at least suppose to have immigration laws so the ecomomy of america can keep up with the demand and to make sure they can SPEAK THE FUCKEN LANGUAGE and adjust and fit into the American society. Not leach off of it or take advantage of it and take away from tax paying American citizens because they broke the law. Were are the citizens rights?
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06-18-2007, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by CougFan23
Put yourself in the aliens position. They were probably lived in worse conditions in Mexico or wherever they came from than your situation is right now. It's hard to blame them for wanting to come here. They take all the jobs Americans don't want and they work damn hard. Many of them pay taxes even though they are not citizens. My point is you shouldn't be mad at them. It's more a failure of the Mexican government to keep Mexicans in Mexico and the American government to prevent them from getting in.
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PLEASE stop saying that they take jobs Americans don't want because THAT IS A LIE! Remember when high school kids used to work in the diners and the gas stations and mow lawns all summer? They can't do that anymore because those jobs are taken...Also, illegals may be unskilled labor when they get here, but they aren't stupid. they learn valuable trades and then they make sure that only their friends and relatives get hired on construction sites. For every dollar illegals make, costs American taxpayers $4. and those taxes they are supposedly paying.....You have to have a social security number to pay taxes so what they pay ends up going NOWHERE.
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06-27-2007, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SydneySteel
PLEASE stop saying that they take jobs Americans don't want because THAT IS A LIE! Remember when high school kids used to work in the diners and the gas stations and mow lawns all summer? They can't do that anymore because those jobs are taken...Also, illegals may be unskilled labor when they get here, but they aren't stupid. they learn valuable trades and then they make sure that only their friends and relatives get hired on construction sites. For every dollar illegals make, costs American taxpayers $4. and those taxes they are supposedly paying.....You have to have a social security number to pay taxes so what they pay ends up going NOWHERE.
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Good points Sydney.
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06-29-2007, 12:07 AM
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I have to admit, I have little sympathy for the plight of the illegal. I do not feel sorry for someone who knowingly breaks the law. Do you feel for a bank robber? How about a car jacker? It is no different in my mind.
The people, the taxpayers are being taken advantage of at every turn. A climate of political correctness has opened the morons currently serving congress to even consider allowing these leeches to remain here in the country. They have shown a blatant disregard for the rules and laws of our society, and there must be a price for this.
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06-29-2007, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Commonsense
I have to admit, I have little sympathy for the plight of the illegal. I do not feel sorry for someone who knowingly breaks the law. Do you feel for a bank robber? How about a car jacker? It is no different in my mind.
The people, the taxpayers are being taken advantage of at every turn. A climate of political correctness has opened the morons currently serving congress to even consider allowing these leeches to remain here in the country. They have shown a blatant disregard for the rules and laws of our society, and there must be a price for this.
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I beleave in strong immagration enforement and the deportation etc. etc. but your contempt for illegals do you hold that same contempt for our legal system, police , and polaticians because they are worse than the car jacker and the bank robber because they have used and abused the very power given them to carry out there crimes against the people. I do not feel sorry for the illegals but I do understand there situation and there actions because of there situation. That in no way means we should not send them packing and not all of them are lazy matter of fact many of them are very hard woking and very moral good people that did a desparate thing do to there desparate situation. And remeber no matter what you say if you were in the same situation you would do the same thing in as far as cross the border and look for work and decent pay.
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