A truthful post from you here Nate. Very good.

Truth except for the last part , yes the US does sanction this slavery in the Mariana's its our terriotory after all.

And good old boy Bush actually signed a bill insisting the Mariana's pay US minimum wage by 2012. he just neglected to put in that bill protections against them being charged more rent for living in filthy barracks than they earn in a month. Bush also neglected to put in that bill any worker protections for these women who are living in virtual slavery. So if they get a raise to seven dollars a hour I am sure it will cost them $6.50 a hour for the privalage of living in a rat invested hovel.

US territory, US slavery.

Wonder how some of these slaves family's feel about the US now that these women are being held captive on US soil?

don't suppose this is creating terroists do you Nate?

Heard Tom delay on c-span last night. He like you Nate has no connection to reality.

This is just tooo funny for words.

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No, actually dip shit is two words

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Can you show where they are charging this much for hovels? Or is this something you read in Mother Jones Magazine? You do know that the federal government doesn't have any laws regarding what rents could be charged anywhere don't you? Wouldn't that be up to the local government to police that? The Mariannas are not a state but a commonwealth so they are not necessarily bound by the same laws as the United States. I have no idea what they are charging for rent there, and truthfully, like the rest of your post that you seem to make up as you go along, I doubt that you do either

You know, I never had much dealings with folks from West Virginia except for the fact my father is buried in Beckley but I never realized they were all Wobblies and socialist.

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I know because I watched a documentary that says they charged that much.

And remember I pay attention to history. Just like the old coal mine stores, and rents. Every time the miner got a raise due to labor reform, the coal companies just raised the rent again and the price of sugar at the store, so the miner really got nothing. Come on now Nate you bill for trucking companies I believe you said. if your electricity goes up, internet doubles and you have to pay your workers more, are you going to give up profit ?

Naw you'll just pass those costs on to the trucking companies.

These women get lured from their homes with the price of a job, only to find out they need to work most of a year to pay their air fare to the island. Then are charged for every drop of water or minute of electricity they use in the hovels they call workers living quarters.

some meet locals and want to get married , but are told they will still have the rent deducted for the barracks . And they are not allowed to quit till the company says they are paid up in full.

It really is slavery and it is US sponsered slavery.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Mariana_Islands

For a good article on the slave conditions present in the Mariana Islands.

Which by the way the head of the republican party was quoted as saying is the perfect example of capitalism at work when it doesn't get impeded by bothersome things like labor laws.
Republican or Democrat it makes no difference to me. The entire US is at fault for allowing this situation to go on in the Islands.

It happens else where too, ever talked to a natural citizen of the bahama's. They don't have it much better.

Give me one plausable excuse for this treatment to still be happening in a US territory Nate, while we tell the rest of the world we want to spread democracy and freedom? What freedom? To work for bread and gruel every day? Thats a joke, the war is about money, oil and greed. The Iraqi people may find themself's a territory of the US and making jeans in sweat shops if they don't watch out.

Nate

I did not hear you give a definition yet of dip shit?

I know its two words, could you please explain the meaning of those two words?

Thanks

I'm not going to get into the you stole our land crap. But when it comes to my people and there history well lets not get it wrong I don't know where ya'll got your information but I would sure love you to show me so I can look into these lies and the propagators of such. Most of the eastern and especialy the southeastern tribes like the Cherokee, choctaws, creeks, chickasaw, miami's, potawatomies, seminoles, and other tribes cultivated there land as there ancestors did. Two if you studied native American law like that of the Cherokee the biggest nation there was one of the known civilized tribes because they had a written language and a phenetic alphabet much harder to learn than english. There laws were final and with no excetions and there laws on killing anything let alone a sacred beast like the buffalo except for food wood be punishable by death. And the tribe was ran by the women not the warriors if a tribe was to go to war or marry or shit it was decided by the eldest women becasue women were the future of the tribes so they were responsable for it. My great grandmother , my dad and my grandfather hell even any of my uncles caught me shooting something for the fun of it . First I had to eat it let me tell you I have litteraly eaten crow and a few other things I wish not to say. Like I said I sure would like to know were you got your information also the great herds were in the great plains for one. My source is my relatives for the most why well because they lived it hmmmm I have research a lot though.

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Now that we are past that I have but to say this. WAKE UP!!! We can never go back in history and change anything and blaming one another as to who fault is a childs game. History surves a valuable resource as to learn from our mistakes or the mistakes of others now you take most of the worst things in history even here in America who is realy responsable? Because I'll tell you non of you fail to mention so I assume you have tunnel vision or you just can't see. It is the leaders for it is there polacies or lack of them or lack of inforcing them that lead to the unsavory parts of history. And instead of the people standing up and not tolerating poor leaders and ousting them for those more capable of doing the job we set by and blame and complain until it gets so bad we have no chioce but to fight to survive. Why is that hmmmmm well because we buy into this live let live bullshit ya you can be non violent and still woop some ass once in a while. But this anti agressive campaign that has swept this country for oh say the last 10 , 15 years is dumb as hell how do you think we got this country. What you think that once you win it is over NO it has just begun go back and ask some of the most powerful and greatest nations in history (great only by means of economical success). Especialy if your the big kid on the block you will from time to time have to fight to stay on top and you must always be alert to those that wish to destroy you and take you down. What made us great once is being striped away easy going hard working simple yet resourceful but you mess with us we will beat your ass. I don't care what happened in the past what we do with the furture is what counts and this nation out of all in history has the greatest chance of geting it right and we were on that path but we have become mired in the mud for one because of poor leadership and the people ALL OF US allowing them to rule us turn us all into slaves and we what sit back and take it because of some preconcived notion that it is not patriotic to boot their ass out to the curb. Who is teaching us that WHY HELL THEM YOU IDIOTS that don't make it the truth. This country is OURS NOT MINE NOT YOURS AND SURE AS HELL NOT THEIRS! They only have the power that we give them and I know this will do no good but one day one day it is going to explode and history will once again have repeated it again maybe next time we will get it right.

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Excuse me but the Cherokees did not have a written alphabet until the 1820's


Cherokee syllabary
Origin
The Cherokee syllabary, which was reputedly invented by George Guess, a.k.a. Chief Sequoyah, of the Cherokee, was introduced in 1819.
By 1820 thousands of Cherokees had learnt the syllabary, and by 1830, 90% were literate in their own language. Books, religious texts, almanacs and newspapers were all published using the syllabary, which was widely used for over 100 years.

Today the syllabary is still used, efforts are being made to revive both the Cherokee language and the Cherokee syllabary, and Cherokee courses are offered at a number of schools, colleges and universities


While it is true the Cherokees were agrarian there were many tribes who were not. By the way the Seminoles were made up of other tribes and runaway slaves. The Seminoles were not an indiginous tribe but came about when Jackson ran the indians into Florida

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I am quite aware of that my point is the cherokee were strictly ruled by there laws and beliefs and the raping of the land and moving on is not correct. When I refered to there written law I was just pointing out a place to reference there beliefs and laws that although not written down until the 1800's existed for decades before. And regardless the way you put it the settlers were the only ones that cultivated the land and that was not so as far as them staking claim to land within a hundred miles what do you think we do are we using vast amounts of forest that are national parks no but we still stake claim to them and even land that is not so I see not why you use that as a point to what appears to put the native americans down. A lot of that was there hunting grounds.

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