This land is mine

I_Hate_the_Nazi_Right · #11 (**permalink**) 08-28-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rob

This land is mine
By Barbara Simpson
Yes, this land (the United States of America) is my land, and I don't plan to give it up easily. In fact, I don't plan to give it up at all, nor do I plan to give it away.
Those words, with that emphasis, have clear meaning. I speak as an American citizen and for fellow citizens who value our country and our citizenship.
We won't give up what's ours and what has been preserved with the lives and blood of millions who fought to protect what we have and what our freedoms make possible.
Those four words constitute the opening line of the lyrics of the theme of the 1960 film "Exodus" and refer to the establishment of the state of Israel. Ernest Gold wrote the music and won an Oscar for his effort. Once you've heard it, you never forget it.
What you might not know is that Pat Boone (yes, that Pat Boone) wrote the lyrics and the second line is "God gave this land to me."
That the Israelis have a deep connection with their land and God is clear.
The last line is "This land is mine until I die." There's no equivocation.
My exact sentiments about the USA.
Would that the U.S. had a movie with such a powerful theme song that would impress on our citizens the importance of our land. Would that we had the courage to stand up against those in our midst who are willing to sell us out, betray our fallen patriots and defraud our children's' future.
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Thirty-two-year-old Elvira Arellano is a perfect example of the insolence of foreigners who break our laws and demand no consequence to their illegal acts.
In 1997, the Mexican citizen illegally entered the U.S. and went to Washington state. Not long after, she was found and deported.
Determined to have her way and flout our laws, she again crossed the border illegally. This time, we're told she went to Illinois in 2000 and took a job cleaning planes at O'Hare International Airport.
So much for security that a formerly deported illegal could steal an identity and work on commercial jets.
In 2002, she was arrested and convicted for working with a false social security number. She was to report to authorities last year to be deported – again.
Why was she convicted in 2002 and allowed to wait until 2006 to show up for deportation?
Instead, last year, she took sanctuary at Adalberto United Methodist Church, a storefront facility in Chicago. She stayed until two weeks ago when the wife of Rev. Walter Coleman drove her to California to agitate at churches protesting the separation of illegals from their American citizen children.
Another question: When was her "American citizen" son born? Did she work during pregnancy?
Saul is 8 years old, which means he was born in 1999. But that was during the time she'd first been deported and before she went to Illinois in 2000. Was he conceived in Mexico? In the United States? Who's daddy? Where's daddy? Why don't we know?
Did she think a single woman having a baby here would be allowed to stay because Americans are such compassionate people – or stupid people? It depends.
In fact, if her false identity hadn't been discovered, she might have gotten away with it.
Now, she's been deported again and is with a friend in Tijuana.
Rev. Coleman says she'll be "organizing" in Mexico while he and other activists will demonstrate here. Coleman's wife, Emma Lozano, heads a Chicago immigration rights group. She plans to continue activism for Arellano. She's also Saul's legal guardian and godmother and will see that he continues his schooling, in the third grade, in Chicago.
Arellano covered all her bases.
The arrogance of these land-grabbers is astonishing. Lozano told reporters the little boy may tour the country to promote immigrant rights!
And you thought Cindy Sheehan exploited her son!
Mexican authorities said Arellano's deportation illustrates the need to reform American immigration laws.
What nerve!
Javier Rodriguez, a Chicago immigration activist told AP "We are sad, but at the same time we are angry. "How dare they arrest this woman?"
Dare? It's astonishing how illegals put on a cloak of holiness and demand rights and privileges that aren't theirs. Activists plan to make Arellano a national symbol for illegals.
How dare they reprimand us for enforcing our laws? Why don't elected officials and American citizens speak out against this arrogance? On the other hand, I can understand the anguish of parents separated from their children because of their sneaking into our country illegally.
But there are solutions:

Change the Constitution to eliminate the automatic "citizenship" of illegal children born here, and rescind the citizenship of existing anchor babies. Then send them all home to mommy.
Change the law to stipulate that any child of an illegal born here must be deported with the parent. No exceptions. We have no obligation to raise children of illegals or to grant them the gift of citizenship.

For those who argue illegals want to become American, Arellano's comment proves them wrong.
When she took sanctuary to avoid deportation, she said, in Spanish: "I only have two choices. I either go to my country, Mexico or stay and keep fighting. I decided to stay and fight."
So, she wants to change our laws, her country remains Mexico, and after seven years here, she still speaks Spanish.
Sorry Elvira, "this land is mine," and I don't plan to give it away to you, your son or anyone else. None of you deserve American citizenship.

This land belongs to the native americans who we either killed or put on reservations so we could steal their lands.

nathanbforrest45 · #12 (**permalink**) 08-28-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by I_Hate_the_Nazi_Right

This land belongs to the native americans who we either killed or put on reservations so we could steal their lands.

Did the native americans have clear title to the land? Did you know that the Cherokee Indians in East Tennessee and Western North Carolina, the very "native americans" the left is so fond of crying over, actually were not orignally from this area. They moved in here and displaced the existing "native american" tribes. So, bleeding heart who probably lives on a plot of ground once claimed by some indian group, even the "native americans" killed off, enslaved, or just ran off other tribes when they wanted the land.

I remember a John Wayne movie, can't remember the title, where some Mexican is claiming we stole the land from Mexico. Wayne said to him, You stole the land from the Indians, now, we are stealing it from you.

The land belongs to the group that can control ownership.

nathanbforrest45 · #13 (**permalink**) 08-28-2007, 11:49 AM

By the way, there is a group of Native Americans in South Dakota who are petitioning the government to end the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally because they claim it infringes on their sacred tribal lands in the mountains. The only problem is the land they are claiming is being infringed is about 10 miles away from any festivities in Sturgis. This has always been the issue with the Native Americans. They lived in small villages but claimed everything around them for 100 miles.

As far as being good stewarts of the land, bullshit. A common tactic to get the hides and meat from the buffalo was to set fire to the grass lands, and then drive the buffalo off a cliff, killing off entire herds just so they could get a small portion of those killed. The plains indians were nomadic because they would come in an area, kill off everything around them, befoul the land with the waste and then move on to another plot to do the same. The settlers came in and worked the land and actually used it for the long term.

wvpeach · #14 (**permalink**) 08-28-2007, 12:04 PM

Nate

I bet you are willing to defend the US and its slave holdings too as okay because this nation did it.

or the fact that slaves are still held in places like the Mariana Islands which are US territories.

Do as I say , not as I do seems to be your motto in life.

Wrong is wrong and right is right.

We did get rough when we moved the Indians off their land, no doubt about it. History tells that story. No way can is be sugar coated.

just like slaves suffered and still do in this country's name.

just like we invaded a country and by Bush's low estimate at least 50,000 innocent people have lost their lives in Iraq.

sugar coat and make excuses for that!

nathanbforrest45 · #15 (**permalink**) 08-28-2007, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wvpeach

Nate

I bet you are willing to defend the US and its slave holdings too as okay because this nation did it.

or the fact that slaves are still held in places like the Mariana Islands which are US territories.

Do as I say , not as I do seems to be your motto in life.

Wrong is wrong and right is right.

We did get rough when we moved the Indians off their land, no doubt about it. History tells that story. No way can is be sugar coated.

just like slaves suffered and still do in this country's name.

just like we invaded a country and by Bush's low estimate at least 50,000 innocent people have lost their lives in Iraq.

sugar coat and make excuses for that!

Excuse me but what does your post have to do with anything anyone has posted on this thread so far??? All it proves is that you are really a far leftwinger who just can't get over not having a Democrat in the White House.

We got rough when we moved NATIVE AMERICANS, not indians dipshit, off their land? Yes we did, but so did Native Americans in thier dealings with settlers. There have been numerous incidents of Native Americans attacking settlers for no good reason. Many times they were removed from an area because they would not co exist with settlers. You claim to live in West Virginia. Are you aware that Native Americans once lived there? Are you giving up your land and your belongings for them?

Hypocrite

nathanbforrest45 · #16 (**permalink**) 08-28-2007, 12:18 PM

However, the lack of labor regulation is not without controversy. The inapplicability of Federal labor regulations has resulted in some extreme labor practices, not common elsewhere in the United States. Some of these labor practices include forcing workers to have abortions, as exposed in the March 18, 1998 episode of ABC News' 20/20, and enslaving women and forcing them into prostitution, as the U.S. Department of Justice conviction of several CNMI traffickers in 1999 attests. In 2005-2006, the issue of these regulatory exemptions in the CNMI was brought up during the American political scandals of Congressman Tom DeLay and lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

Once again emotion has taken the place of reason. Yes, the Marianna's have had issues with slavery. However, as this article points out it is not condoned or allowed by the United States.

Middle of the road · #17 (**permalink**) 08-28-2007, 12:19 PM

Show me a land anywhere that hasn’t been taken over one way or another throughout the course of history.

freedomlover · #18 (**permalink**) 08-28-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45

Excuse me but what does your post have to do with anything anyone has posted on this thread so far??? All it proves is that you are really a far leftwinger who just can't get over not having a Democrat in the White House.

We got rough when we moved NATIVE AMERICANS, not indians dipshit, off their land? Yes we did, but so did Native Americans in thier dealings with settlers. There have been numerous incidents of Native Americans attacking settlers for no good reason. Many times they were removed from an area because they would not co exist with settlers. You claim to live in West Virginia. Are you aware that Native Americans once lived there? Are you giving up your land and your belongings for them?

Hypocrite

No good reason? Perhaps your right Nathan. I couldn't tell you for sure, because history is very skewed where it comes to the Native Americans and White Man. I do know, that as late as the 1980's we were stil trying to break treaties, and Native Americans in some places still today are treated horribly.

rob · #19 (**permalink**) 08-28-2007, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Middle of the road

Show me a land anywhere that hasn’t been taken over one way or another throughout the course of history.

Great factual post and welcome to AWE.

wvpeach · #20 (**permalink**) 08-28-2007, 01:10 PM

History repeats itself . doesn't it.

Sounds just like us invading Iraq and killing the natives all over again doesn't it Nate.

By the way can you give a definition of dip shit? is that a real word?

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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45

Excuse me but what does your post have to do with anything anyone has posted on this thread so far??? All it proves is that you are really a far leftwinger who just can't get over not having a Democrat in the White House.

We got rough when we moved NATIVE AMERICANS, not indians dipshit, off their land? Yes we did, but so did Native Americans in thier dealings with settlers. There have been numerous incidents of Native Americans attacking settlers for no good reason. Many times they were removed from an area because they would not co exist with settlers. You claim to live in West Virginia. Are you aware that Native Americans once lived there? Are you giving up your land and your belongings for them?

Hypocrite