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09-01-2007, 01:42 AM
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yes, there are different levels
Stop with the fucking pc bullshit. How the fuck are we going to get along with each other when we keep fucking poking each other in the eye?
Get it now?
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NO. We are not supposed to bubble bous restricted in thought becasue it migt hurt somebodys precious feelings. Starying on the British Rocker kick..lets get Rogers Waters to tell us that "We dont need no Thought Control"
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09-01-2007, 01:46 AM
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NO. We are not supposed to bubble bous restricted in thought becasue it migt hurt somebodys precious feelings. Starying on the British Rocker kick..lets get Rogers Waters to tell us that "We dont need no Thought Control"
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Thought Control? huh?
Yes, it can go to far, but you can't just ALWAYS say FUCK how YOU feel.
The whole pc argument is bullshit
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09-01-2007, 01:52 AM
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Thought Control? huh?
Yes, it can go to far, but you can't just ALWAYS say FUCK how YOU feel.
The whole pc argument is bullshit
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It si bullshit. If you cant take the heat get out the kitchen. Having to tip toe through s symantic minefield squleches thoughts and therefore ideas. And we need people to be able to think freely to come up with solutions. Sure that means ...mean people will say shit. But in a country with the highest crime rate in the civlised world and some bombing the shit out of two countries and its residents. Focusing on how might get insulted is pretty trivial.
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Cussing out low class inbreds isnt uninteligent, its honest
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Everything you just said is total bullshit
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
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09-04-2007, 06:29 PM
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It si bullshit. If you cant take the heat get out the kitchen. Having to tip toe through s symantic minefield squleches thoughts and therefore ideas. And we need people to be able to think freely to come up with solutions. Sure that means ...mean people will say shit. But in a country with the highest crime rate in the civlised world and some bombing the shit out of two countries and its residents. Focusing on how might get insulted is pretty trivial.
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what are YOU doing to improve the situation?
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09-04-2007, 07:25 PM
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what are YOU doing to improve the situation?
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ob, please don't ask him or her to take some responsibility. That would just be wrong.
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09-05-2007, 12:54 AM
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ob, please don't ask him or her to take some responsibility. That would just be wrong.
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Yeah yoru fat ass is really chaging the world. YOu cal it al bullshit anyway. LMFAO...idiot.
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Everything you just said is total bullshit
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09-05-2007, 09:45 PM
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Storm of Malpractice
Katrina was a media disaster.
By Jonah Goldberg
Last week, according to LexisNexis, there were more than 2,000 newspaper and wire stories on Hurricane Katrina, along with blanket coverage on cable news.
This hurricane of hurricane retrospectives was no doubt long in the works, as editors like to put stories “in the can” for vacation time. The media seemed to cover every angle, particularly the Bush administration’s missteps in response to the disaster. And while some might quibble with this or that characterization or selection of facts, ultimately the media were doing what they’re supposed to do: hold government accountable.
But there was one thing missing from the coverage of this natural, social, economic, and political disaster: the fact that Katrina represented an unmitigated media disaster as well.
Few of us can forget the reports from two years ago. CNN warned that there were “bands of rapists, going block to block.” Snipers were reportedly shooting at medical personnel. Bodies at the Superdome, we were told, were stacked like cordwood. The Washington Post proclaimed in a banner headline that New Orleans was “A City of Despair and Lawlessness” and insisted in an editorial that “looters and carjackers, some of them armed, have run rampant.” Fox News anchor John Gibson said there were “all kinds of reports of looting, fires and violence. Thugs shooting at rescue crews.” These reports actually hindered rescue efforts, as emergency crews wasted valuable time avoiding phantom snipers.
TV reporters raced to the bottom to see who could moralistically preen the most. Interviewers transformed into outright scolds of administration officials. Meanwhile, the distortions, exaggerations and flat-out fictions being offered by New Orleans officials were accelerated and amplified by the media echo chamber. Glib predictions of 10,000 dead, and the chief of police’s insistence that there were “little babies getting raped,” swirled around the media like so much free-flowing sewage.
It was as though journalistic skepticism of government officials was reserved for the White House, and everyone else got a free pass.
Of course the Bush administration made serious mistakes — politically, logistically and otherwise — in a difficult situation. But Katrina unleashed a virus of sanctimony and credulity for urban legends almost without precedent.
Reports of the Superdome being a slaughterhouse were repeated, even though dozens of news organizations had access to the building. CBS alone had 200 people in New Orleans, and yet it couldn’t find those bodies stacked to the ceiling or a single rape victim from the roving bands of Mad Max-style marauders. That’s because nobody was raped or murdered in the Superdome.
The deluge in New Orleans elicited a deluge of wish fulfillment in the media, as though the hurricane was a biblical sign that something was very wrong in George W. Bush’s America. “Everything changed” because of Katrina, insisted CNN’s Anderson Cooper. Translation: We’re going to tell the story we want to tell about the country from now on. Race and class became the chief prisms for viewing the disaster. Katrina was even portrayed as the result of global warming, which (of course!) is Bush’s fault.
During last week’s bonfire of Katrina navel-gazing, there was virtually no mention of the hyperventilating and inaccurate media reports, even though these facts are by now well-established. Terms such as “rape gangs” and “snipers” do not appear in virtually any of the mainstream media’s retrospectives. It’s as if it never happened.
Why? I think the answer is complex, but three factors are surely involved. One, the media are often good watchdogs of government but rarely of themselves. While recycling old complaints about government is permissible, dwelling on your colleagues’ failures — or your own — just isn’t done.
Two, the media have convinced themselves that they did a wonderful job of covering Katrina, showering themselves with awards in response. Dan Rather spoke for his colleagues when he said, “Everybody across the board did such a good job.” It was one of the “quintessential great moments in television news ... right there with the Nixon-Kennedy debates, the Kennedy assassination, Watergate coverage, you name it.”
Well, as the disgraced former news anchor might say, that makes as much sense as a cat working as a rocking-chair inspector.
And, lastly, journalists are invested in the dominant narratives of Katrina, and they’ll be damned if they’ll let go, particularly if it comes at the expense of their own credibility, or if it makes Bush’s mistakes seem a little less horrendous.
No, it would be better, and much easier, to print the legend.
© 2007 Tribune Media Services, Inc.
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09-05-2007, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness
It si bullshit. If you cant take the heat get out the kitchen. Having to tip toe through s symantic minefield squleches thoughts and therefore ideas. And we need people to be able to think freely to come up with solutions. Sure that means ...mean people will say shit. But in a country with the highest crime rate in the civlised world and some bombing the shit out of two countries and its residents. Focusing on how might get insulted is pretty trivial.
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It's not about not thinking freely, or feeling free to express your thoughts.
It's about doing that in a way that is, using another word, diplomatic.
or,
We can continue to say fuck you if you don't agree, which gets a conversation nowhere...and generates no goodwill.
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09-09-2007, 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CrankyYankee
It's not about not thinking freely, or feeling free to express your thoughts.
It's about doing that in a way that is, using another word, diplomatic.
or,
We can continue to say fuck you if you don't agree, which gets a conversation nowhere...and generates no goodwill.
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Of course tis about free thought. banning words ban thoughts. Kissing somebodys ass isnt something that should be forced on people. Very very few deserve it.
These bans on words go way beyond striving for civility. They are designed to hurt people into a certin ideals that many dont have. I would strive for some ways to crub physical violence its the a true destructor in society.
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Cussing out low class inbreds isnt uninteligent, its honest
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Everything you just said is total bullshit
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
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10-02-2007, 03:01 PM
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new forcast...2 more hurricanes for this season '07
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