Joe king! Thank God someone understands where I am coming from. However, I must admit, I am not partisan. I am liberal on many issues, just as I am conservative on many issues. It is not just liberals begging for handouts. There are plenty of conservatives who dont do jack either. However, I understand why you would aim this at the liberals. But to lump all liberals into one category is also irresponsible. I am liberal about abortion. I think freedom is giving a person this choice. However I am not liberal about giving undeserving ppl free money over and over again, while they fail to do their part.

Tawook, it most certainly doesn't make ppl more responsible. The social programs created after the GREAT DEPRESSION, are shelling out way more cash to the needy now than they were then. Is this evidence of how it has encouraged responsiblity? I believe that treating ppl fairly is the answer. And taking MY money to pay for someone elses needs, (probably the guy who cut me off on the road today and flicked me the finger,) is not going to encourage anything other than laziness. Our history proves this to be true. ITs amazing, a girl can do whatever she wants. I cant stop this. Because she is free. Well, then if she gets pregnant she can pay her bills, otherwise I should have a say in how her children are raised, and what schools they go to, and what churches they go to since Im the one picking up the tab. Dont you think?

political saturn you have made a good point about kings allegation that its dems looking for handouts. Clinton had the most successful welfare to work program in the history of this country, I am a nurse practionor and and about 40% are on government assistance where probably only a quarter really belong there due to severe problems(born with spina bifida and in a WC and only partial brain function( I think as a society we have to care for these people although I am sure joe King would disagree. I cannot stand the freeloaders. But you know what most of them are ardent bush supporters. They relate to his lack of intellectual ability and they love any kind of war or violence.( I am not antiwar but only when we have a REAL threat. So I agree no one wants to be ripped off by freeloaders when they are working but King somehow thinks its liberals. Doenst he know that it is the uneducated easily manipulated that are Georges Base. its the bottomfeeders and the 2% elite that benenfir from his cororate laws that protect white collar criminals . So I agree stop spending my hard earned dollars George by being the most fiscally irresponsible president in the histroy of this country.King do you like the fact that W gave the oil companies the biggest tax break ever given to a corporation on their record breaking profit year. do you like funding that. Do you know each family has spent over 42000 on the war that was based on lies and had no more violations than saudia arabia or many other countries.(oh but the Bush family has close financial ties with saudia Arabia so its ok if they lop off heads and women have no rights) King do you like W's word in the first election where he spoke repeatedly of being a "WAR " president. You are paying for him to be a cowboy. Do you know he has had 4 business endeavors and each one he ran into bankruptcy and never had a financial success in his life and he is doing that to our counrtry. king why dont you mail your check to him and big business and spend your money so my kids do not have to pay for idiots like you who voted Bush in office. But you know what i work hard and as a responsbl e citizen I will pay my hard earned money in taxes because I do not think our next generation should have to pay for W. so lets all clean up W mess(someone always has) and move on and hopefully the nest president be it right or left will not drive this counrty further into debt and be such a softie on terrorism as Bush.

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In POST #22 you said:
The Bible does not accept the free and liberal distribution of food to those who can work.

It mentions that a farmer can harvest his Field ONCE - if he leaves a tool in the Field he isn't supposed to go get it - the lost tools and the remaining crop in the Field are supposed to be left so widow's and orphans can go harvest it for themselves (not just handed to them in baskets for free)

AND ALSO . . .

In 2Th 3:6 - 15 it CLEARLY SAYS - be not weary in well doing ...

6 - Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.

7 - For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;

8 - Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:

9 - Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us.

10 - For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

11 - For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.

12 - Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.

13 - But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing.

14 - And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.

15 - Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.

Just My 2-cents!

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THAT comment is seriously insulting!

Show me just ONE of my posts that would indicate that!

You are as sure of that as you are SURE of your political insight - huh?? Must be!!

Those are typical comment patterns from liberal's!

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You know Joe King, it was liberals, he encouraged this gov't to grant rights and priveldges to women, blacks, the common man. One could argue that "oh no, it was the republicans that did that." this is true, however, they were liberals then! Liberals are not all bad. However some of the "liberal," politics are. I could apply the same philosophy to Republicans. I guess Im saying the longer you keep lumping liberals into one category with comments like, "Those are typical comment patterns from liberal's!" and "Stop The Liberal Spending Of MY Hard Earned Dollars!
Spend Your OWN "WHEN" You Finally Earn It!", the more you set yourself up as a candidate for mediocrity. I live in MELBOURNE FLA. This town is like, 98% bush fanatics. And they are also like 100% give me, give me, give me, when it comes to gov't aid. My wife is a school teacher, and here in florida, you have one of the largest republican populations in america everyday asking their gov't for more money for their schools, churches, and families.

I would also like to point out that all the ppl who "freely," made the decision to build THEIR homes directly in the path of a hurricane runway and then cried to the gov't for help this past year were also from a republican state/community. i.e. katrina

. . . but they (the Republicans) did not

• try to claim it was a RACIAL ISSUE.
• try to refinance the failing political coffer's
• try to get their LOST voter base to be able to vote via absentee ballot.
• try to blame Washington for the lack of support that was their OWN fault. REMEMBER THE 10TH AMENDMENT from 1791?? which states: ANY Power not granted to the Federal Government belongs to the States or the People. In other words - The state is the first line of defense of its own voter base

Sure - everyone suffered in Katrina - BUT the Democrats abused the situation.

Which Mayor bailed on his voter base?

New Orleans Mayor ran to Dallas instead of making sure that things were being run well in his city! He failed to make sure that the poor in his own city were tended too. HE let them down first!
I say HE WAS the REAL racist - he did NOT stick around to CARE about the POOR BLACK people in his city! . . . did he??

Because of THAT - Republicans were blamed for being Racist and NOT Caring?

We still have hundreds of Katrina Vitim's here in North Carolina and this is a red state!

Yeah - we are such a hateful breed!

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but they (the Republicans) did not
excuse me, practically everyone in the states affected by katrina were republican.

are you suggesting the victims of katrina, (about 90% of them republican) were not the ones asking the gov't to bail them out?