Was the Katrina response racist?

Joe_King · #11 (**permalink**) 04-05-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by painintheear

I hope people realize that... you know... there were a high percentage of non-white people in New Orleans to begin with.

And yay to other teens interested in politcs, me too!

I think it was more politically motivated!

It's how the Democrats at the state and how they handled it that was the initial breakdown.

As for now - they seem to get a LOT more federal $$ than Mississippi which lost as much if not more than they did.

ididnotvote4him · #12 (**permalink**) 04-05-2006, 05:16 PM

Katrina was a nightmare because on tape it showed Bush being informed it was going to happen and the levees would fail and then after hiding for 4 days it showed him saying he had no idea this could happen. there were many who did not respond fully but the fact that our president was caught in such a huge lie and failed to protect a major american city when he had a WARNING shows how easily a terrorist can hit. Bush is soft on terrorism,soft on intellect, soft on who he appoints to high positions, soft on lobbyist and corporate greed, soft on companies that destroy and pollute our enviornment,soft on burning $ and creating the largest deficit in the hisory of our country, soft on reading and comprhending our intelligence reports(remember he ignored the warning of 9/11). He is hard on the hardworking average American that pays taxes and is a good citizen. If you are heading a major corporation that wants to get away with something illegal or you are a lobbyist or a cronie that needs a job Bush is the guy for you. If you are a terrorist that needs a leader who is an idiot and divides people and ignores intelligence warning Bush is definietly the guy for you. You see it is just a matter of persrspective of for some (illegal corporations,cronies with no abilities, terrorists, lobbyist, criminal politicians, ) then Bush is the man for you.

Joe_King · #13 (**permalink**) 04-05-2006, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ididnotvote4him

Katrina was a nightmare because on tape it showed Bush being informed it was going to happen and the levees would fail AFTER how much Federal money was sent to that state to secure those Levee's - It should have been a fairly safe assumption that they shouldn't have failed. and then after hiding for 4 days it showed him saying he had no idea this could happen. there were many who did not respond fully like the governor who Bush advised to request assistance from the Federal government that wasn't done for a full day AFTER the fact but the fact that our president was caught in such a huge lie and failed to protect a major american city when he had a WARNING but could NOT legally force the state to get Federal help without a formal request by state government shows how easily a terrorist can hit. Bush is soft on terrorism,I agree the President and ALL Federal elected politicians as WAY too soft on terrorism. They ALL can cry about what the problem is BUT no one is willing to commit to ANY REAL and actual solution! soft on intellect, soft on who he appoints to high positions, soft on lobbyist and corporate greed, soft on companies that destroy and pollute our enviornment,soft on burning $ and creating the largest deficit in the hisory of our country , A big part of this deficit is one of 2 things 1- the war and 2- the Katrina refugee's soft on reading and comprhending our intelligence reports(remember he ignored the warning of 9/11 That was the SAME warning Clinton failed to do ANYTHING about - remember Bush was fighting the Gore Camp for several months in the beginning of that SAME year and then the President had to play catch up to handle a lot of business that had been delayed because Gore refused to accept defeat! ). He is hard on the hardworking average American that pays taxes and is a good citizen. If you are heading a major corporation that wants to get away with something illegal or you are a lobbyist or a cronie that needs a job Bush is the guy for you. EVERY President is guilty of that! Look at what the Clinton cronies got - remember all the PARDONs he dished out like Monopoly money?? If you are a terrorist that needs a leader who is an idiot and divides people and ignores intelligence warning Bush is definietly the guy for you.That is a bogus comment! What did Clinton and the Democrats do when we were attacked?? NADA!! You see it is just a matter of persrspective of for some (illegal corporations,cronies with no abilities, terrorists, lobbyist, criminal politicians, ) then Bush is the man for you.

Before you throw stones in that camp make sure you double check your own camp.

Both sides are dirty!

freedom? · #14 (**permalink**) 04-05-2006, 07:34 PM

was it racist or not?? who can say unless you were there.
i mean ofcourse we see it on tv but we cant really argue unless we have personal expirience . We just have to look at it through othe people's eyes. I disagree with a2025
<<Actually I don't think I am going to live long enough to see racism in this coungry let alone the world end. Heck, maybe it never will; but what I do see today is the rise of black racism. Today I think there are more black racist than white racist>> I think there is alot of racism not only blacks are racist every race is. and i dont know about you but im 16 and yeah i will see the day that there is hardly any racism...everyone one could make a difference and let other people see the truth wich is "all man are created equal" ... I dont know how but i'll make sure i see that day that Martin Luther King Jr's dream becomes a reality. Because in the end we are all good at heart

gangsta9 · #15 (**permalink**) 04-07-2006, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by freedom?

was it racist or not?? who can say unless you were there.
i mean ofcourse we see it on tv but we cant really argue unless we have personal expirience . We just have to look at it through othe people's eyes. I disagree with a2025
<<Actually I don't think I am going to live long enough to see racism in this coungry let alone the world end. Heck, maybe it never will; but what I do see today is the rise of black racism. Today I think there are more black racist than white racist>> I think there is alot of racism not only blacks are racist every race is. and i dont know about you but im 16 and yeah i will see the day that there is hardly any racism...everyone one could make a difference and let other people see the truth wich is "all man are created equal" ... I dont know how but i'll make sure i see that day that Martin Luther King Jr's dream becomes a reality. Because in the end we are all good at heart

I totally disagree with you. there is still rascism in the US. in fact there are schools where the majority of the students are white, or black. just becuase they are allowed to go to school doesn't mean they will. many white parents don't want there children with blacks. i mean isn't white a color too?

Joe_King · #16 (**permalink**) 04-07-2006, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gangsta9

I totally disagree with you. there is still rascism in the US. in fact there are schools where the majority of the students are white, or black. just becuase they are allowed to go to school doesn't mean they will. many white parents don't want there children with blacks. i mean isn't white a color too?

... back in the mid 70's they (the politicians) started taking students to other schools - now it costs a fortune to do it and people for the most part STILL insist on living in their own ethnic neighborhoods.

What good was that?
It just took away a little more time for kids to eat a hot breakfast at home.

PoliticalSaturn · #17 (**permalink**) 04-07-2006, 11:09 PM

I have a phlosophy, as long as everyone is supposedly free, and certainly action like they are, choosing who, with whom, where, and when, at their own discretion to have sex and getting pregnant without any of the responsible ppl being allowed to impeed on these ppls rights, then those irresponsbilbe ppl should have to pay for their own, schools, food, clothes, medicine, homes, etc.. and if they can't, they should have the right to starve to death. Freedom is responsiblity. Not socialism. Freedom is being allowed to make your own bed and then sleeping in it. Not making someone else sleep in it for you. This country has gone down hill ever since it became socialist following the great depression, catering specifically to the christians and the top 5%.

TaWooK · #18 (**permalink**) 04-08-2006, 06:37 AM

Uh socialism is based on a system for the people. not just for a few. Germany is the only kind of socialism people think of and because of that people think socialism is wrong. hitler was all for the people and he made sure his people were taken care of, however he took it too far and now socialism is a dirty word to the capitalist patriots of america. i am all for socialism it makes everyone responsible for everyone else making sure that the top 5 percent of this country have to do their part in helping the rest of their country man whom they took so much from in the pursuit of their billions. This whole i dont owe anyone anything idea in this country is sad because we've all paid the price sometime in our families history and all should be accountable for giving back. unfortunately the powers that be dont see it that way and katrina was a clear demonstration of that.

Joe_King · #19 (**permalink**) 04-08-2006, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PoliticalSaturn

I have a phlosophy, as long as everyone is supposedly free, and certainly action like they are, choosing who, with whom, where, and when, at their own discretion to have sex and getting pregnant without any of the responsible ppl being allowed to impeed on these ppls rights, then those irresponsbilbe ppl should have to pay for their own, schools, food, clothes, medicine, homes, etc.. and if they can't, they should have the right to starve to death. Freedom is responsiblity. Not socialism. Freedom is being allowed to make your own bed and then sleeping in it. Not making someone else sleep in it for you. This country has gone down hill ever since it became socialist following the great depression, catering specifically to the christians and the top 5%.

So True! I totally agree with your point.

A main problem in this country is also how the acclaimed Christian sects have be so focused on certain Biblical teachings while TOTALLY IGNORING the verses that could correct these problems.

These churches have sold their soul for the sake of self righteous glory as well as for the thrill and excitement of being able to swindle good natured people along with those that have a guilty conscience, out of money and other donated property.

Look at something as simple as earn what you eat in the Bible:
2 Thessalonians Chapter 3 Verse 10 which simply says:

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For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

Food Banks, Government Cheese give aways, and soup kitchens are wrong! Who works for the food they are going to eat (or in some cases of cheese and butter - SELL)

Joe_King · #20 (**permalink**) 04-08-2006, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TaWooK

Uh socialism is based on a system for the people. not just for a few. Germany is the only kind of socialism people think of and because of that people think socialism is wrong. hitler was all for the people and he made sure his people were taken care of, however he took it too far and now socialism is a dirty word to the capitalist patriots of america. i am all for socialism it makes everyone responsible for everyone else making sure that the top 5 percent of this country have to do their part in helping the rest of their country man WHY? They pay higher per dollar tax rates than anyone else - THAT ISN'T ENOUGH? You gotta have more? WHY can't the poor do more for themselves - it is THEIR ASS that is in the mess which the rich DID NOT put them into? WHEN are YOU going to give up more?? It seems to be more of a bother to you personally - so DO SOMETHING on your own for the poor! .... or are you just trying to con the rich into giving you something you have NOT EARNED? whom they took so much from in the pursuit of their billions. This whole i dont owe anyone anything idea in this country is sad because we've all paid the price sometime in our families history and all should be accountable for giving back. unfortunately the powers that be dont see it that way and katrina was a clear demonstration of that.

The whole I don't owe anyone anything idea in this country is called FREEDOM!
It's all about FREEDOM Of Choice!
The poor chose to avoid the responsibility to make the path in their lives more secure - they chose to go burn a joint or get laid or go play on the PS2, or party down 1/2 the night ...

If you want more - simple WORK MORE - you are free to do so!
That is your ONLY choice!

You are also FREE to be lazy - just do NOT expect a lazy person to get handouts from those to have to work more.
That should be the hard workers CHOICE!

I am NOT responsible for ANYONE'S lazy attitude, lack of drive & ambition, or a person's self pity that keeps them down.

I got out of the poverty - so can ANYONE else who wants too...

SYMPATHY is in between "Shit" & "Syphilis" in the dictionary!