Since we are such indifferent pricks about New Orleans maybe we could do this here...

noneof yourbusiness · #31 (**permalink**) 10-14-2007, 06:57 AM

New Orleans is a historical Major City. Its dispciable to just abanndon it. You wil not live safe from Natural disaster youd think you hillbilly motherfuckers would get that. God Will and all that stupid shit.

Realist as usuall shows hes worth less then dog. Less caring or concern for fellow humans that a dog too.

Dom1 · #32 (**permalink**) 10-14-2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

New Orleans is a historical Major City. Its dispciable to just abanndon it. You wil not live safe from Natural disaster youd think you hillbilly motherfuckers would get that. God Will and all that stupid shit.

Realist as usuall shows hes worth less then dog. Less caring or concern for fellow humans that a dog too.

Who has abandoned it?

If you were the owner of an apartment building or houses which you rented out would you rebuild them only to be torn up by the people leasing? I have a sneaking suspicion you have never visited the ninth ward. Go visit . . . preferably at night, and get some perspective. New Orleans has to do some changng to attract many of their businesses and citizens back. It is not a place many people would want to move to . . . just look at the crime rate.

Cookie Parker · #33 (**permalink**) 10-14-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dom1

Who has abandoned it?

If you were the owner of an apartment building or houses which you rented out would you rebuild them only to be torn up by the people leasing? I have a sneaking suspicion you have never visited the ninth ward. Go visit . . . preferably at night, and get some perspective. New Orleans has to do some changng to attract many of their businesses and citizens back. It is not a place many people would want to move to . . . just look at the crime rate.

It hasn't been rebuilt..,like in Iraq, Halliburton took the money and ran. NO one can live in those neighborhoods..there's mold and mildew on the still standing hurricaned homes...

Skinny Fatts · #34 (**permalink**) 10-14-2007, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

New Orleans is a historical Major City. Its dispciable to just abanndon it. You wil not live safe from Natural disaster youd think you hillbilly motherfuckers would get that. God Will and all that stupid shit.

Realist as usuall shows hes worth less then dog. Less caring or concern for fellow humans that a dog too.

Are you implying that businesses somehow have an obligation to go there, regardless of whether it is possible to make money?

Dom1 · #35 (**permalink**) 10-14-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cookie Parker

It hasn't been rebuilt..,like in Iraq, Halliburton took the money and ran. NO one can live in those neighborhoods..there's mold and mildew on the still standing hurricaned homes...

Many of the people who owned in those neighborhoods didn't live there. Can you give some reasons they should take the insurance money they received and rebuild?

Also, there are a lot of people who did get teh insurance money and chose to move elsewhere. They also have the road home program which a lot of money was given to people who want to rebuild in NOLA.

The Road Home

A lot of this money has not been allocated since they have so many fraudelant claims - but it is the state of Louisiana who is in charge. Both New Orleans and the state of Louisiana are governed by Democrats, so if you want to blame a political party be my guest . . . just try to figure out which one is to blame for the money not being allocated yet.

The federal government has given 110 billion dollars already, but it isn't them who gives the money to people - it is the state and local agencies. The state of Mississippi also had billions of dollars to give to homeowners and the MS gulf coast is rebuilding rapidly - remember, the actual eye of the hurricane went over Bay St. Louis and wiped that city completely out - it is practically rebult right now.

Please answer this, just how much responsibility do people in New Orleans have in rebuilding their city? When federal and state aid are added to donated money I would bet it is close to what the damage estimate was.

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Originally Posted by Skinny Fatts

Are you implying that businesses somehow have an obligation to go there, regardless of whether it is possible to make money?

Exactly. If you were a business owner would you go back to a crime infested city if you could relocate and go elsewhere? Of course you wouldn't, but there are some like Cookie who feel that these private individuals should have to go back.

Sam · #36 (**permalink**) 10-14-2007, 11:52 PM

I think NO will rebuild for these reasons- It produces or transports more than a third of the nation's oil and a quarter of its natural gas. It is also an important commercial fishing area falling only behind Alaska. It will be a differnt NO with the center again a cultural and music center-to attract conferences and tourists.

noneof yourbusiness · #37 (**permalink**) 10-15-2007, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Skinny Fatts

Are you implying that businesses somehow have an obligation to go there, regardless of whether it is possible to make money?

None of your greedy bastards get a dime by screwing over a entire city.

Its in investment in the nation. The complete lack of concern for your own citzenry is mindboggling.

Tel you what evucarte everybody from any potential hotspot. Tornado alley, New MAdrid Fault, San Andreas Fault, the Eastern Seaboard gulf of mexico and the entire motherfucking state of Floarida. Cause those poeple are all stupid right.

Now give up all contorl to the Coprations that can make a buck this dicplacment. Throw every other motherfucker that doesnt look like you out of this nation.

Great. Fuck every poor person too. Let em die or throw them out too.

Okay now the last 100,000 some of your left. Now with you bastards nothing but a zit on the ass of the world. Nobody need be botherd by you again.

how about that?

Or invest in your future and raise a hadn and help your neighbor to make the nation better.

Cookie Parker · #38 (**permalink**) 10-15-2007, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dom1

Many of the people who owned in those neighborhoods didn't live there. Can you give some reasons they should take the insurance money they received and rebuild?

Also, there are a lot of people who did get teh insurance money and chose to move elsewhere. They also have the road home program which a lot of money was given to people who want to rebuild in NOLA.

The Road Home

A lot of this money has not been allocated since they have so many fraudelant claims - but it is the state of Louisiana who is in charge. Both New Orleans and the state of Louisiana are governed by Democrats, so if you want to blame a political party be my guest . . . just try to figure out which one is to blame for the money not being allocated yet.

The federal government has given 110 billion dollars already, but it isn't them who gives the money to people - it is the state and local agencies. The state of Mississippi also had billions of dollars to give to homeowners and the MS gulf coast is rebuilding rapidly - remember, the actual eye of the hurricane went over Bay St. Louis and wiped that city completely out - it is practically rebult right now.

Please answer this, just how much responsibility do people in New Orleans have in rebuilding their city? When federal and state aid are added to donated money I would bet it is close to what the damage estimate was.

Exactly. If you were a business owner would you go back to a crime infested city if you could relocate and go elsewhere? Of course you wouldn't, but there are some like Cookie who feel that these private individuals should have to go back.

No one is there, so how is it crime infested? Besides, Halliburton was given money from your paycheck to rebuild it...why hasn't that happened? They were even told they could hire illegals and pay them less than fair labor market value for wages to get it done.

I don't think blaming the victim is the answer here. I want to know why Halliburton gets paid Billions here and in Iraq and doesn't do their job?

Dom1 · #39 (**permalink**) 10-15-2007, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

I think NO will rebuild for these reasons- It produces or transports more than a third of the nation's oil and a quarter of its natural gas. It is also an important commercial fishing area falling only behind Alaska. It will be a differnt NO with the center again a cultural and music center-to attract conferences and tourists.

The port facilities will and have been rebuilding, but that doesn't mean that people should be forced to move back to the city.

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

None of your greedy bastards get a dime by screwing over a entire city.

Its in investment in the nation. The complete lack of concern for your own citzenry is mindboggling.

Tel you what evucarte everybody from any potential hotspot. Tornado alley, New MAdrid Fault, San Andreas Fault, the Eastern Seaboard gulf of mexico and the entire motherfucking state of Floarida. Cause those poeple are all stupid right.

Now give up all contorl to the Coprations that can make a buck this dicplacment. Throw every other motherfucker that doesnt look like you out of this nation.

Great. Fuck every poor person too. Let em die or throw them out too.

Okay now the last 100,000 some of your left. Now with you bastards nothing but a zit on the ass of the world. Nobody need be botherd by you again.

how about that?

Or invest in your future and raise a hadn and help your neighbor to make the nation better.

You want to rebuild the city? Fine, move down there and help them get back on their feet. A big part fo the reason they aren't rebuilding is because there are many who don't want to go back - and those who don't want to go back are the ones that need to go back for economic reasons.

Your examples are as dumb as you are. Fact is, people in those places you mentioned rebuild their homes after disasters . . . many of the people in New Orleans aren't doing a fucking thing to help out. There is a lot of money that has been allocated and if you want ot blame someone, blame the local and state governments who are holding things up.

You obviously haven't ever been to New Orleans.

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Originally Posted by Cookie Parker

No one is there, so how is it crime infested? Besides, Halliburton was given money from your paycheck to rebuild it...why hasn't that happened? They were even told they could hire illegals and pay them less than fair labor market value for wages to get it done.

I don't think blaming the victim is the answer here. I want to know why Halliburton gets paid Billions here and in Iraq and doesn't do their job?

Wrong. There are people there. It is also crime infested. Wrong on both counts.

The parts that are not being rebuilt are the residential areas that Halliburton is NOT in charge of. You ask for sources often but when they are provided you don't read them -that much is obvious. If you had, then you would have read about the Road Home program, which is going to rebuild residential areas as well as apartments.

Can you provide any information on how Halliburton has not rebuilt residential areas that they were supposed to? See, because I have never heard of Halliburton building subdivisions and the like.

Now, I asked you a couple things and you either didn't want to answer or didn't see it, so I will ask again.

NPR : New Orleans Struggles to Cope with Murder Wave

Crime takes hold of new New Orleans - USATODAY.com

When looking at the next one, try to remember that there were five months left in 2007when this was written.

New Orleans Church's List Mourns Every 2007 Murder Victim - Topix

New Orleans is crime infested - there is no disputing that.

Cookie Parker · #40 (**permalink**) 10-15-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dom1

The port facilities will and have been rebuilding, but that doesn't mean that people should be forced to move back to the city.

You want to rebuild the city? Fine, move down there and help them get back on their feet. A big part fo the reason they aren't rebuilding is because there are many who don't want to go back - and those who don't want to go back are the ones that need to go back for economic reasons.

Your examples are as dumb as you are. Fact is, people in those places you mentioned rebuild their homes after disasters . . . many of the people in New Orleans aren't doing a fucking thing to help out. There is a lot of money that has been allocated and if you want ot blame someone, blame the local and state governments who are holding things up.

You obviously haven't ever been to New Orleans.

Wrong. There are people there. It is also crime infested. Wrong on both counts.

The parts that are not being rebuilt are the residential areas that Halliburton is NOT in charge of. You ask for sources often but when they are provided you don't read them -that much is obvious. If you had, then you would have read about the Road Home program, which is going to rebuild residential areas as well as apartments.

Can you provide any information on how Halliburton has not rebuilt residential areas that they were supposed to? See, because I have never heard of Halliburton building subdivisions and the like.

Now, I asked you a couple things and you either didn't want to answer or didn't see it, so I will ask again.

NPR : New Orleans Struggles to Cope with Murder Wave

Crime takes hold of new New Orleans - USATODAY.com

When looking at the next one, try to remember that there were five months left in 2007when this was written.

New Orleans Church's List Mourns Every 2007 Murder Victim - Topix

New Orleans is crime infested - there is no disputing that.

I deserved that chastisement, Dom1..and will gladly accept it. And you are right from the articles...it is crime infested.

I will be back later tonite..but wanted to put this here before I forget...

Wake up Black America: New Orleans:An example of how the illegal friendly bill will adversely impact blacks

when Bush brought up that 1931 (?) law and allowed Halliburton to bring in illegals and to hire for below fair market values the construction jobs, it depressed the job markets in New Orleans, much as it has nationwide. that's all I wanted to start here and I hate to do this, but time will not allow now.

I'll be back..and again, I apologize...I deserved your chatisement for not reading your material and bulldogging my way into the conversation...thanks...