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Old 02-16-2007, 04:52 PM
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Sure you cynical reject that can only point out perceived flaws but can't actually have a conversation unless it fits your piss ant small minded myopic hate filled opinion. Sure.
Sure, obfuscate the discussion by finger pointing & name calling & using any & every tactic possible to distract from the discussion.

I'll do that when you get your head out of your bigoted reactionary ass.

Let me know when you can have a conversation instead of a cynical mean spirited name calling fest. If that's all you wish to do we can go at it I don't mind.

A simple "NO" woud suffice. No, Crownpost hasn't been to N.O. I haven't donated my physical time, but have helped out monetarily.
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Old 02-16-2007, 04:59 PM
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Crow, if you can't go down to NO then don't blame the rest of us for not going either.
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To add a few more thoughts:

There are many people of all faiths and colors who have picked themselves up and rebuilt. There are more groups that come in to help out from other areas than can be counted. We are really blessed with the people who come to town and just do the work without any fanfare and it's all faiths and manner of people.

The biggest problem is that not all areas of New Orleans should be rebuilt. There are just too many problems to fix. These areas are both white and black, rich and poor.

Some common sense must be used in trying to rebuild.

1. The economy can not sustain a popluation more than say 250,000.

2. The outflow of business from the Orleans parish area has been going on for years. The few mid size companies that were stuck here not have a reason and in many cases the means to relocate. Many jobs moved north of I-12 because there is more land and it's much easier to delever your goods to the whole metro area from there instead of being tied up in town.

3. The ;port" is not what it once was. Just like most places, it's either bulk transfer or containerized. There just aren't 100's of jobs waiting for people in the port.

4 Many of the problems with the wetlands were created 30 - 40 -50 years ago with pipeline canals and the ACOE keeping the Mississippi within it's banks so that silt and fresh water was not washed into the wetlands during the spring floods. The salt water intrusion has killed such a large % that it would be tough to see much improvement anytime soon.

5. Many areas of the city were built on filled in swamp land after the 30's & 40's. It's still sinking with no signs of stopping.

6. DAILY people are still leaving. People who have been able to make plans and put thns in motion are packing up and leaving. My area did not flood yet there are 5 houses on my block vacent from people transferring out.

7. Insurance. Few can afford it. With 38% to well over 100% jumps in insurance coverage, few people can buy a house even at dirt cheap prices.

8. Crime. It's much worse than many people outside the area know. Much of it doesn't even make the local news. We can't get a corrct number on how many police we actually have. Besides the warzone of Orleans Parish, many areas of Jefferson Parish have become horrible.

9. Healthcare. Our healthcare system is bare bones to say the least. Don't come for a visit unless you are 100% healthy. While we do have some functioning hospitals, many people have to be brought to baton Rouge or further for treatment.

10. The ACOE has been fighting to keep the mississippi River on it's path but the battle could be lost within years, creating a flow south from Baton Rouge through Morgan City.

Why try to rebuild New Orleans as large as it was ?


Too many people in New Orleans can't accept the fact that our lives and our city has changed forever. No matter how many billions of dollars are spent we can't make it what is was, nor should we. We have to plan and live smarter than we were. The sad part is too many people refuse to accept facts and re-elect the same type of morons that put us in this mess in the first place.

But I do thank all of you who donated, supported and have given time and energy to help us survive.

All I ask is that just because a majority of the people shown on the news are takers with the goverment plan of cradle to grave care, not all of us are.
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River, the point is well taken. I am sure that most rational thinking people realise that even though there were alot of parasites there, not all were and many are continuing to rebuild and flourish.
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A simple "NO" woud suffice. No, Crownpost hasn't been to N.O. I haven't donated my physical time, but have helped out monetarily.
First i was responding to Kix dripping sarcasm. It was petty & uncalled for.
2 I don't brag about the things I do in regards to helping people it is a private affair. I am involved in many ways.
3.To talk about what has happened post Katrina does not require having some placard that says I did my part. That is Also small minded & petty.


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Crow, if you can't go down to NO then don't blame the rest of us for not going either.
I'm not blaming anyone particularly if you feel some weird guilt & see it as a personal affront towards you, from what I wrote, well you will have to look within yourself.

I do not feel judgment towards anyone on AWE. I at the moment responded to Kix in kind for his vitriol that was uncalled for & rather unchristian for the self appointed authority on all things 'Christian'.

If one writes conflicitve things I will respond in kind & most likely more entertaining than you will. It's what I do....

That is all.
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Old 02-16-2007, 07:38 PM
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First i was responding to Kix dripping sarcasm. It was petty & uncalled for.
2 I don't brag about the things I do in regards to helping people it is a private affair. I am involved in many ways.
3.To talk about what has happened post Katrina does not require having some placard that says I did my part. That is Also small minded & petty.




I'm not blaming anyone particularly if you feel some weird guilt & see it as a personal affront towards you, from what I wrote, well you will have to look within yourself.

I do not feel judgment towards anyone on AWE. I at the moment responded to Kix in kind for his vitriol that was uncalled for & rather unchristian for the self appointed authority on all things 'Christian'.

If one writes conflicitve things I will respond in kind & most likely more entertaining than you will. It's what I do....

That is all.
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Sure you cynical reject that can only point out perceived flaws but can't actually have a conversation unless it fits your piss ant small minded myopic hate filled opinion. Sure.
Sure, obfuscate the discussion by finger pointing & name calling & using any & every tactic possible to distract from the discussion.

I'll do that when you get your head out of your bigoted reactionary ass.

Let me know when you can have a conversation instead of a cynical mean spirited name calling fest. If that's all you wish to do we can go at it I don't mind.
Wouldn't reactionary be to rebuild NO to the same state that it was before Katrina?

New Orleans, does not seem to have made a huge amount of progress. Maybe it is lack of leadership and a plan. I don't know enough about it, and frankly, I don't care too much about it either. Let me amend that, I don't care too much about it until, another Katrina comes along and starts the process all over again. When that happens I will care about my tax dollars being used to buy boobs for the populace.

This is Nagin's puppy. He can rebuild in any way he chooses. The chocolate city will rise from the ruble. As an architectural designer, I can say with certainty, water will always win, and whatever is done in NO is another time bomb waiting for the correct conditions to detonate again.

The definition of insanity is repeating an action and expecting a different result. NO should definitely not be rebuilt as it was, and, it does not have the leadership to rebuild it in a manner that there is a greater chance for survival. All the money that was sent there is money thrown out the window.

Cross your fingers when the hurricanes start blowing.
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Wouldn't reactionary be to rebuild NO to the same state that it was before Katrina?

New Orleans, does not seem to have made a huge amount of progress. Maybe it is lack of leadership and a plan. I don't know enough about it, and frankly, I don't care too much about it either. Let me amend that, I don't care too much about it until, another Katrina comes along and starts the process all over again. When that happens I will care about my tax dollars being used to buy boobs for the populace.

This is Nagin's puppy. He can rebuild in any way he chooses. The chocolate city will rise from the ruble. As an architectural designer, I can say with certainty, water will always win, and whatever is done in NO is another time bomb waiting for the correct conditions to detonate again.

The definition of insanity is repeating an action and expecting a different result. NO should definitely not be rebuilt as it was, and, it does not have the leadership to rebuild it in a manner that there is a greater chance for survival. All the money that was sent there is money thrown out the window.

Cross your fingers when the hurricanes start blowing.

Quite right...What do you think it'll take for the people to realize that living 30ft. below sea-level in a flood plane,,,in a hurricane zone,,,isn't the most intelligent thing to do.?
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Quite right...What do you think it'll take for the people to realize that living 30ft. below sea-level in a flood plane,,,in a hurricane zone,,,isn't the most intelligent thing to do.?

While I agree with you, should we not say the same thing about people who build on fault lines in earthquake zones ?

What about people in tornado alley ?

What about towns that flood every 10-20 years along the mississippi ?

Should we not build buildings over 15 floors high because planes might hit them ?

Like I said, I agree that most of New Orleans should not be rebuilt, the areas that were not flooded were the oldest parts of town built on high ground for a reason.
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