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08-14-2008, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam
If you had to single out and choose one single person as the most innovative inventor who reshaped the world...who would you choose?
My choice is Johann Gutenberg. It is difficult to separate one single individual from the long list , but Gutenbergs determination to overcome the technological challenges and convince and train the artisans in his movable printing press shows his tenacity and brilliance.
It took him decades of research and constant need for capital and overcoming obstacles to invent the press which opened the world of art, literature and science to the ordinary citizen.
He really was the father of the information age in my opinion. Without access to information how would all that developed beyond it have happened?
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Canuck .... Va te faire enculer!
I know, I know, sorry... I just became frustrated fro only a moment.
"L" I know when I was thinkng of my answer I came up with Gutenberg because I love books and the transition from handwritten to printed information was the beginning of the information age....it took Gutenberg years of legal battles and financial undoing not to mention covert research so it is so impressive.
Good point TS about grasses, at that point in time domesticated grasses changed some groups from hunting and gathering to agricultural societies was enormous.
I always wondered about that...if man after finding some edible vegetation tossed the remnants and it was merely by chance they realized they could produce more? ....or was there a bright curious kid experimenting...who knows?
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you are givin me a woody right now. Kind of like out in the woods.
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08-14-2008, 05:17 PM
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Little known fact. First movable type printing press was invented in Korea, a couple of 100 years before Gutenberg. Of course Gutenberg deserves more credit because the Korean invention didn't spark a revolution, but the fact is still there.
As for most important. How about the guy who created wheat? Or glasses. The domestication of grasses was a huge advance without which there would be no civilization. And without glasses, many scholars would not have been able to continue advances into their formative years.
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I knew about the koreans but they were isolated. Just like there were plenty of explorers who probably made it to the Americas, the only one who counts, who started a permanent and ongoing presences was Cristoforo Columbo.
Farming technology that allowed a reliable crop was huge advance. The problem is the question asks for an inventor, not an invention. The persons who developed planting and plant breeding are not known, though a convincing case has been made it was probably by women.
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Who is familiar with James Burke and his "Connections" series on PBS? This was a fascinating look at how inventions are interconnected and how they changed the way the world lives. For example, Napoleon was very successful with his military exploits but had a snag on feeding his troops. Someone developed the science of canning foods in order to feed his soldiers. That lead to a change in the entire food industry because now you could preserve more than you needed at the end of the harvest and could have food year round.
He also published a book based on the series. I recommend it.
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08-15-2008, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45
Who is familiar with James Burke and his "Connections" series on PBS? This was a fascinating look at how inventions are interconnected and how they changed the way the world lives. For example, Napoleon was very successful with his military exploits but had a snag on feeding his troops. Someone developed the science of canning foods in order to feed his soldiers. That lead to a change in the entire food industry because now you could preserve more than you needed at the end of the harvest and could have food year round.
He also published a book based on the series. I recommend it.
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I remember it well. A fantastic view of how science and engineering progressed and how the free flow of information and "cross pollination" advance knowledge and technology. And done with a very wicked sense of humor.
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08-15-2008, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam
If you had to single out and choose one single person as the most innovative inventor who reshaped the world...who would you choose?
My choice is Johann Gutenberg. It is difficult to separate one single individual from the long list , but Gutenbergs determination to overcome the technological challenges and convince and train the artisans in his movable printing press shows his tenacity and brilliance.
It took him decades of research and constant need for capital and overcoming obstacles to invent the press which opened the world of art, literature and science to the ordinary citizen.
He really was the father of the information age in my opinion. Without access to information how would all that developed beyond it have happened?
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Without a moments hesitation it would be nikola tesla.
Not only did he give us alternating current to run those presses etc but he also envisioned a system where we consume 7500 watts or (10 HP) of natural resources and from the cosmos with his invention create 75 million watts or 750,000 horsepower.
He conducted his initial tests but when it was discovered there was no way to meter it the funding was pulled.
Since few to none understood its operation, and those who also could not get funding for something that cannot make money.
Meyl a german physicist has recently demonstrated its functionality on a small scale.
Literally infinite source of power in combination with his other inventions that the credit was stolen, like radio, yes radio was not marconi but tesla, the flourescent bulb, xrays, radar, and a long list of others, he single handed launched us into the industrial society we are today.
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08-15-2008, 12:39 PM
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Who was the inventor of the myth of the Jews as global menace?
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Probably Jesus Christ when he reportedly for the first time in his life cursed and kicked them out of the temple.
Not all jews of course just a certain flavor of jew.
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08-15-2008, 04:24 PM
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CY, I agree with you. Og rocks.  |
woo-hoo!!!! Another vote for Og!
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08-16-2008, 03:36 AM
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This is the dumbest, most ignorant post I've seen in five minutes.
Jobs, Wozniak, Gates and the inventor of the internet are right up there, Sammy. I think they should all be stuffed and put on display in the Smithsonian while they are young and their features are still good, using that plastisizing technique they use on the Chinese negroes.
That way, in 20 years Sammy's students can take a field trip (holiday from all those too cold and too much snow to go to school days) to the nation's capital to ogle some profound nerds we murdered so kids can see them "as they really were". It would make education much more enjoyable and knowable and everything, don't you think?
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Wow your post makes you the dumbest reply I have ever seen. You do realize without the light bulb, your computer can not get online. So how do you surf the internet without a way to view it? The light bulb furthered technology. Then the basis was used to create tubes. Which in turn is used in your monitor. And from there you get LCDs and whatever. But nice job moron. |
08-16-2008, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45
Who is familiar with James Burke and his "Connections" series on PBS? This was a fascinating look at how inventions are interconnected and how they changed the way the world lives. For example, Napoleon was very successful with his military exploits but had a snag on feeding his troops. Someone developed the science of canning foods in order to feed his soldiers. That lead to a change in the entire food industry because now you could preserve more than you needed at the end of the harvest and could have food year round.
He also published a book based on the series. I recommend it.
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A great series!!One of my all time favorites!
I wonder if it is available on dvd?
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08-16-2008, 03:59 AM
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I want to write this as small as possible because I am not sure I want everyone to know I agree with you Sam. Gutenberg allowed books to become inexpensive enough that ordinary people were able to buy them. That created a desire to learn how to read and to become educated. Good choice Sam. Note however, he did this completely without any help from the Democratic Party
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Could you speak up,I couldn't hear you!lol
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