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Old 08-04-2008, 02:32 AM
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What never made sense to me about all this Holyocaust stuff is:

1) Why would hitler exterminate his FREE work force?
The Jooz were needed in the factories to support the war machine.
Why would Hitler be so stupid to waste his work force?

2) What kind of dumb ass would put all those Jooz on trains and haul them from all over europe to camps in Germany just to gas them when they arrived?
What idiot would do such a thing when they could have saved all that precious petrol for their tanks and planes and simply machine gunned them down where they stood?
Hell if the Jooz were from France, spain, poland whatever..... let the French, Spanish or Polish bury them right?
No Hiter felt they were so special that he wanted to truck them from all over Europe to Germany so he could gas them in his back yard!!!!

3) We see footage and pictures of so many Jooz that were starving to death.
Why would Hitler be so damn dumb to waste any food at all on these people? Maybe he hauled them all the way to Germany just so he could watch them starve too?


4) What possible reason would ANY country pass laws against dissenting or disagreeing with the holocaust account?
People can disagree with ANYTHING else in history without fear of going to jail!
Why do people get thrown in jail just for disagreeing with the holocaust?




Regular Americans are learning about the Holocaust Fraud 2006-02-17, 12:13PM EST

At present, various historians and scientists are being fined, slandered, and/or imprisoned in Canada and in Europe for examining and publicly challenging the Holocaust narrative. Over the last fifty years chemists and engineers have categorically refuted the soap, lampshade, and gaschamber legends. Numerous scholars and academics have conclusively shown the "6 million" figure to be a wildly gross exaggeration. However, Jewish-instituted "defamation of the dead" laws in such countries prevent an objective discussion of what actually occurred versus what is legend and propaganda.

I decided to analyze the arguments of the much maligned “Holocaust deniers,” in order to, if for nothing else, fully understand how people could be so ignorant and/ or hateful. I went in depth into this issue these last two years. Here is what I learned:

THE CONTEMPORARY ISSUE

We debate every other great historical controversy as a matter of course, but influential pressure groups with private agendas have made the Jewish holocaust an exception. Elitist dogma manipulated by special interest groups has no place in academia. Students should be encouraged to investigate the holocaust story the same way they are encouraged to investigate every other historical event. This isn't a radical point of view. The premises for it were worked out some time ago during a little something called the Enlightenment.

THE HISTORICAL ISSUE
Revisionists agree with orthodox historians that the German National Socialist State singled out the Jewish people for special and cruel treatment. In addition to viewing Jews in the framework of traditional anti-Semitism, the Nazis also saw them as being an influential force behind international communism. During the Second World War, Jews were considered to be enemies of the State and a potential danger to the war effort, much like the Japanese were viewed in this country. Consequently, Jews were stripped of their rights, forced to live in ghettos, conscripted for labor, deprived of their property, deported from the countries of their birth and otherwise mistreated. Many tragically perished in the maelstrom. Revisionists part company with orthodox historians in that revisionists refute the claim that the German State had a policy to exterminate the Jewish people (or anyone else) by putting them to death in gas chambers or by killing them through abuse or neglect. Revisionists also maintain that the figure of 6 million Jewish deaths is an irresponsible exaggeration, and that no execution gas chambers existed in any camp in Europe which was under German control. Fumigation gas chambers did exist to delouse clothing and equipment to prevent disease at the camps. Most likely it is from this lifesaving procedure that the myth of extermination gas chambers emerged.

Revisionists generally hold that the Allied governments decided to carry their wartime "black propaganda" of unique German monstrosity over into the postwar period. This was done for essentially three reasons. First, they felt it necessary to continue to justify the great sacrifices that were made in fighting two world wars. A second reason was that they wanted to divert attention from and to justify their own particularly brutal crimes against humanity which, apart from Soviet atrocities, involved massive incendiary bombings of the civilian populations of German and Japanese cities. The third and perhaps most important reason was that they needed justification for the postwar arrangements which, among other things, involved the annexation of large parts of Germany into Poland. These territories were not disputed borderlands but included huge parts of Germany proper. The millions of Germans living in these regions were to be dispossessed of their property and brutally expelled from their homelands. Many hundreds of thousands were to perish in the process. A similar fate was to befall the Sudeten Germans.

With President Roosevelt's approval, high-ranking Washington officials of Jewish origin played a major role in setting America's policy on the postwar occupation of Germany, including the Nuremberg Tribunal. These included Isadore Lubin, Samuel Rosenman, Murray Bernays, and Herbert Wechsler. Above all, the malevolent role played by Henry Morgenthau, Jr., US Treasury Secretary and Roosevelt's trusted adviser, insured that the spirit of the Talmud and the Old Testament would prevail.

For those who believe that the Nuremberg Trials revealed the truth about German war crimes, it is a bracing shock to discover that the then Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, Harlan Fiske Stone, described the Nuremberg court as "a high-class lynching party for Germans."


In addition, officials of several powerful Jewish organizations intervened in the Nuremberg process. A few days before leaving for London in June 1945, Robert Jackson met in New York with Judge Nathan Perlman, Dr. Jacob Robinson, and Dr. Alexander Kohanski, who made quite clear their intention to play an important role in running the trial. It was at this meeting that Robinson, an official of the World Jewish Congress, told Jackson that six million Jews had been lost during the war, and that he had arrived at this figure by extrapolation. In other words his figure was somewhere between a hopeful estimate and an educated guess.

As it happens, this same six million figure had been cited 26 years earlier in a leading Jewish-American periodical. In a 1919 essay by former Governor Martin H. Glynn of New York state, readers were told that "six million" Jews "are dying" in a "threatened holocaust of human life" as victims of "the awful tyranny of war and a bigoted lust for Jewish blood."

THE "PHOTOGRAPHS"
We've all seen "The Photographs," endlessly. We’ve been shown the newsreel photos taken by U.S. and British photographers at the liberation of the German camps, especially the awful scenes at Dachau, Buchenwald and Bergen-Belsen. These films are typically presented in a way in which it is either stated or implied that the scenes resulted from deliberate policies on the part of the Germans The photographs are real. The uses to which they have been put are base.

There was no German policy at any of those camps to deliberately kill the internees. In the last months of the war, while Soviet armies were advancing on Germany from the east, the British and U.S. air arms were destroying every major city in Germany with saturation bombing. Transportation, the food distribution system and medical and sanitation services all broke down. That was the purpose of the Allied bombing, which has been described as the most barbarous form of warfare in Europe since the Mongol invasions.

Millions of refugees fleeing the Soviet armies were pouring into Germany. The camps still under German control were overwhelmed with internees from the east. By early 1945 the inmate population was swept by malnutrition and by epidemics of typhus, typhoid, dysentery and chronic diarrhea. Even the mortuary systems broke down. When the press entered the camps with British and U.S. soldiers, they found the results of all that. They took -- "The Photographs." Still, at camps such as Buchenwald, Dachau and Bergen-Belsen tens of thousands of relatively healthy internees were liberated. They were there in the camps when "The Photographs" were taken. There are newsreels of these internees walking through the camp streets laughing and talking. Others picture exuberant internees throwing their caps in the air and cheering their liberators. It is only natural to ask why you haven't seen those particular films and photos while you've seen the others scores and even hundreds of times.

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*Photos of malnourished, starved, and diseased bodies do not prove "gas chambers." In fact, they prove the opposite - malnourishment, starvation, and disease, and nothing more.

“The Documents” Spokespersons for the Holocaust Lobby assure us that there are "tons" of captured German documents which prove the Jewish genocide. When challenged on this, however, they produce only a handful of documents, the authenticity or interpretation of which is always highly questionable. If pressed for reliable documentation, the Lobby will then reverse itself and claim that the Germans destroyed all the relevant documents to hide their evil deeds, or it will make the absurd claim that the Germans used a simplistic code language, or whispered verbal orders for mass murder into each others' ears. The truth appears to be, with regard to the alleged extermination of the European Jews, that there was no order, no plan, no budget, no weapon (that is, no so-called execution gas chamber) and no victim (that is, not a single autopsied body at any camp has been shown to have been gassed).

*Holocaust believers demand that you "disprove a negative," that you prove the "gas chambers" did not exist. Even though sources as diverse as Allied aerial photos and the Red Cross humanitarian service patently disproved the gas chamber story, the Holocaust believer insists that the burden of proof is still on you to disprove it. This is neither reasonable nor scientific. Proof they can not provide - and this is where slander, punishment, and other distracting name-calling techniques are used against the historians, engineers, and chemists who publicly engage the Jewish Holocaust tale.

Allied aerial photos of the Auschwitz/Birkenau camp show the alleged gas chamber rooms to have none of the holes cut in the ceilings where the gas was claimed to have been dropped from. Also, Auschwitz was repeatedly visited by Red Cross inspection teams who were allowed to speak to prisoner representatives alone, in order to hear first-hand of any mistreatment, chicanery, interruption of mail and parcel delivery, health concerns, food and ration matters etc.

“Eyewitness” Testimony
As documentary "proofs" for the mass-murder of the European Jews fall by the wayside, Holocaust historians depend increasingly on "eyewitness" testimonies (and censorship) to support their theories. Many such testimonies are ludicrously unreliable. History is filled with stories of masses of people claiming to be eyewitnesses to everything from witchcraft to flying saucers. During and after the war there were "eyewitnesses" to mass murder in gassing chambers at Buchenwald, Bergen-Belsen, Dachau and other camps in Germany proper. Today, virtually all recognized scholars dismiss this eyewitness testimony as false, and agree that there were no extermination gas chambers in any camp in Germany proper.

Establishment historians, however, still claim that extermination gas chambers existed at Auschwitz and at other camps in Poland. The eyewitness testimony and the evidence for this claim are, in reality, qualitatively no different than the false testimony and evidence for the alleged gas chambers at the camps in Germany proper.

During the war crimes trials many "eyewitnesses" testified that Germans made soap out of human fat and lamp shades from human skin and made “shrunken” Jewish heads. Allied prosecutors even produced evidence to support those charges. Today, most scholars agree that the testimony was false and the evidence to support it was manufactured.

With regard to confessions by Germans at war crimes trials, it is now well documented that many were obtained through coercion, intimidation and even physical torture. *The idea of "cremating" millions of bodies is absurd. It requires an enormous amount of fuel to burn a body at a high enough heat so as to sufficiently destroy it. The energy-strapped Third-Reich could not afford such an extravagant way of getting rid of human bodies. Such an idea is idiotic. When asked where the millions of bodies are which the Germans were alleged to have “gassed,” the excuse that they were “cremated” is very convenient.

*Millions of Jews, Communists, and other prisoners survived the camps in WWII. Many are still alive today. How is that possible if the Germans sought to exterminate them? How could these people have survived for years in the camps, men, women, and children included, and not be killed? The Germans certainly could have murdered those in the camps, if they had wanted to, by very inexpensive and available means. The Germans did not need a "gas chamber," a bullet to the head would have been sufficient.

AUSCHWITZ
British historian David Irving, perhaps the most widely read historian writing in English, has called the Auschwitz death-camp story a "sinking ship" and states that there were "no gas chambers at Auschwitz."
The Auschwitz State Museum has recently revised its half-century-old claim that "4 million" humans were murdered there. The Museum now says maybe it was "1 million." But what documentary proof does the Museum provide to document the 1 million figure? None. Revisionists want to know where those 3 million souls have been the last 45 years. Were they not part of the fabled Six Million? One might ask why, when some 3 million Auschwitz dead were brought back: to life (by the stroke of a pen, as it were, much like they "died" in the first place) that no one in the Holocaust Lobby thought a celebration to be in order.

Those who are most dedicated to promoting the Holocaust story complain that "the whole world" was indifferent to the genocide which allegedly was occurring in German occupied Europe. When asked why this was the case the promoters usually respond by saying that it was due to some great moral flaw in the nature of Western Man. At other times they made the absurd claim that people did not realize the enormity of what was happening. It is true that the world responded with indifference. How else should people have responded to that which they did not believe, and which for them was a non-event?

For it is certain that if there had been "killing factories" in Poland murdering millions of civilians, the Red Cross, the Pope, humanitarian agencies, the Allied governments, neutral governments, and prominent figures such as Roosevelt, Truman, Churchill, Eisenhower and many others would have known about it and would have often and unambiguously mentioned it, and condemned it. They didn't. The promoters admit that only a tiny group of individuals believed the story at the time -- many of whom were connected with Jewish propaganda agencies. The rise of the Holocaust story reads more like the success story of a PR campaign than anything else. Winston Churchill wrote the six volumes of his monumental work, The Second World War, without mentioning a program of mass-murder and genocide. Maybe it slipped his mind. Dwight D. Eisenhower, in his memoir Crusade in Europe, also failed to mention gas chambers. Was the weapon used to murder millions of Jews unworthy of a passing reference? Was our future president being insensitive to Jews?

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS and HOLOCAUST REVISIONISM
Many people, when they first hear holocaust revisionist arguments, find themselves bewildered. The arguments appear to make sense but, they reason, "How is it possible?" The whole world believes the holocaust story. It's just not plausible that so great a conspiracy to suppress the truth could have functioned for 50 years.

To understand how it could very well have happened, one needs only to reflect on the intellectual and political orthodoxies of medieval Europe, or those of Nazi Germany or the Communist-bloc countries. In all of these societies the great majority of scholars were caught up in the existing political culture. Committed to a prevailing ideology and its interpretation of reality, these scholars and intellectuals felt it was their right, and even their duty, to protect every aspect of that ideology.

They did so by oppressing the evil dissidents who expressed "offensive" or "dangerous" ideas. In every one of those societies, scholars became Thought Police.
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In our own society, in the debate over the question of political correctness, there are those who deliberately attempt to trivialize the issues. They claim there is no real problem with freedom of speech on our campuses, and that all that is involved with PC are a few rules which would defend minorities from those who would hurt their feelings. There is, of course, a deeper and more serious aspect to the problem. On American campuses today there is a wide range of ideas and viewpoints that are forbidden to be discussed openly. Even obvious facts and realities, when they are politically unacceptable, are denied and suppressed. One can learn much about the psychology and methodology of thought police by watching how they react when just one of their taboos is broken and holocaust revisionism is given a public forum.

First they express outrage that such offensive and dangerous ideas were allowed to be expressed publicly. They avoid answering or debating these ideas, claiming that to do so would give them a forum and legitimacy. Then they make vicious personal attacks against the revisionist heretic, calling him dirty political names such as "anti-Semite," "racist" or "neo-Nazi," and they even suggest that he is a potential mass murderer. They publicly accuse the revisionist of lying, but they don't allow the heretic to hear the specific charge or to face his accusers so that he can answer this slander.

The Holocausters accuse revisionists of being hate filled people who are promoting a doctrine of hatred. But revisionism is a scholarly process, not a doctrine or an ideology. If the holocaust promoters want to expose hatred, they should take a second look at their own doctrines, and a long look at themselves in the mirror.


(Emphasis: Sound Familiar?)

Anyone on campus who invites a revisionist to speak is himself attacked as being insensitive. When a revisionist does speak on campus he is oftentimes shouted down and threatened. If he has books or other printed materials with him they might be "confiscated." All this goes on while the majority of faculty and university administrators sit dumbly by, allowing campus totalitarians to determine what can be said and what can be read on their campus. Next, the thought police set out to destroy the transgressor professionally and financially by "getting" him at his job or concocting a lawsuit against him. The courts are sometimes used to attack Revisionism. The holocausters often deceptively claim that revisionist scholarship has been proven false during a trial. The fact is that revisionist arguments have never been evaluated or judged by the courts in an atmosphere of intellectual freedom.

Finally, the thought police try to "straighten out" that segment of academia or the media that allowed the revisionists a forum in the first place. It can be an instructive intellectual exercise to identify taboo subjects, other than holocaust revisionism, which would evoke comparable responses from thought police in our schools and media.

Recently, some administrators in academia have held that university administrations should take actions to rid the campus of ideas which are disruptive to the university. This is a very dangerous position for administrators to take. It is an open invitation to tyranny. It means that any militant group with "troops at the ready" can rid the campus of ideas it opposes, and then impose its own orthodoxy. The cowardly administrator finds it much easier and safer to rid the campus of controversial ideas than to face down a group of screaming and snarling militants. But it is the duty of university administrators to insure that the university remains a free marketplace of ideas.

When ideas are used as an excuse to disrupt the campus, it is the disrupters who must be subdued, not the ideas.


CONCLUSION
I believed in the Jewish Holocaust story since I was a young child. The tales of Dr. Mengele were heart-wrenching and horrifying – the turning of Jewish skin into lampshades and Jewish fat into soap. However, also terrifying, are the stories of the Salem witches, whom were alleged to have danced with devil and practiced black magic. In Colonial New England, many “good” people swore under oath to God that they had witnessed these "witches" do evil things. How is it possible? For a variety of reasons (whether because of honest hallucination, the need for attention, or the wanting of vengeance) one person’s tale was mirrored and expanded upon by another. Rumors began to spin wildly out of control. Eventually a whole chorus of people began repeating the same lie, creating the appearance of “truth” simply by the number of “witnesses.”
The Holocaust is nearly identical to such infamous and frenzied trials, and lying en masse is a historically proven phenomena.

How then is the Holocaust allowed to exist? The problem is that most historians do not look into the primary sources. To my regret, I learned the subject wholly on the basis of secondary works (through memoirs and film). The reason why this is common is because there are very few documents pertaining to the 'Holocaust' that would qualify as 'primary sources.’ For instance, German soldiers were tortured into signing “confessions” written in English. This is “History?” The veracity of the story is widely believed even though the rigorous standards of skepticism and impartiality are not even remotely applied to the Holocaust historiography.

During the war and in the postwar era as well, Zionist organizations were deeply involved in creating and promulgating anti-German hate propaganda. There is little doubt that their purpose was to drum up world sympathy and political and financial support for Jewish causes, especially for the formation of the State of Israel. Today, while the political benefits of the holocaust story have largely dissipated, the story still plays an important role in the ambitions of Zionists and others in the Jewish community. It is the leaders of these political and propaganda organizations who continue to work to sustain the holocaust legend and the myth of unique German monstrosity during the Second World War.

Understandably, academics and historians are terrified of the potential consequences to their careers and lives for examining such primary sources with the same degree of scrutiny they would apply to documents pertaining to other events. As of January, 2006, chemist Germar Rudolf, historian David Irving, and publisher and pacifist Ernst Zundel are currently awaiting trial in prison. Many more are in exile from their nations of origin for their desire to examine the issue. As a teacher, you may likely be punished for even suggesting that an opposing viewpoint to the Jewish version exists. Still, all we must ask for is an open and factual examination of an event which we are all forced to see from one perspective, an event recreated with great emotion in film after Hollywood film.

Who profits then? What I've also learned is how totally dependant the State of Israel is on the Holocaust narrative for its very existence. Many American Jews and Christian Zionists deploy the Holocaust as a means of garnering sympathy and billions of U.S. tax dollars each year for Israel as well as preventing any discussion of a whole host of topics regarding Jewish influence in American media and government. The Holocaust is a multi-million dollar investment which sees many billions in returns annually.

During the war and in the postwar era as well, Zionist organizations were deeply involved in creating and promulgating anti-German hate propaganda. There is little doubt that their purpose was to drum up world sympathy and political and financial support for Jewish causes, especially for the formation of the State of Israel. Today, while the political benefits of the holocaust story have largely dissipated, the story still plays an important role in the ambitions of Zionists and others in the Jewish community. It is the leaders of these political and propaganda organizations who continue to work to sustain the holocaust legend and the myth of unique German monstrosity during the Second World War.

If "Holocaust Revisionism" is as "fraudulent" and "hateful" as many would have you believe, than exposure to the light would simply kill it. However, Revisionism is searching for public exposure and discussion, and many are desperate to destroy it by personally slandering and imprisoning those who counter the approved Holocaust orthodoxy. This anti-intellectual craziness is both dangerous and very revealing.

I urge you to take what little time you may have and explore this aspect of WWII history, this story which has calcified itself as "fact" in our books, our media, and our films. Should we need reminding, the Earth was once believed to be both "flat" and the center of the universe. Clearly, even today, we are not immune from mythologies which purport to be the truth.

Thank you so much.
Sincerely,
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Video Documentaries:
Jewish Historian, David Cole, exposes Auschwitz:

Part One:
http://www.codoh.com/newsite/multimedia/Piper1of2.wmv

Part Two
http://www.codoh.com/newsite/multimedia/Piper2of2.wmv

The Jewish Declaration of War on Nazi Germany:
http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~falluga/J1.wmv


Articles:
Jon Weiner
Holocaust Creationism

Mark Weber:
Holocaust Commemoration Strengthens Jewish-Zionist Power

Mark Green:
Holocaust Fundamentalism

Edgar Steele:
ConspiracyPenPal Newsletter

French Politician to face trial for "Revisionism"
http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?...&id=1194932004

Historian David Irving to face trial in Austriahttp://
Your Financial News Source

Publisher Ernst Zundel awaiting trial in Germany- www.REVISIONISTS.com -- Ernst Zundel

Chemist German Rudolf awaits trial in Germany- Germar Rudolf: Persecution

The Jewish Declaration of War on Nazi Germany:
The Jewish Declaration of War on Nazi Germany: The Economic Boycott of 1933. M. Raphael Johnson, Ph.D.

JUDEA DECLARES WAR ON GERMANY
Binjamin Wilkomirski, a major Holocaust biographer, exposed as a fraudhttp://
Real Horrors, Phony Claims

The Red Cross – “No Evidence of Genocide”
The Truth Seeker - A Factual Appraisal by the Red Cross


THE ZIONAZIREPORT: Zionist Information

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See, thats why Hitler lost the war? He gassed all his free labor!!!!

So do people really believe the holycaust lie or is it just those reaping the benefits from it?

The whole holocaust fantasy is frankly laughable when a person tries to logically make sensse out of it. Here we have a military commander who has the smarts to take over all of europe, park subs in New York Harbor and he was so damn dumb he gassed all his free labor instead of just working them to death?

The bottom line people is if we let them get away with this one there will be no end to the lies that those in office will spin to extort money for their own (collective) gain. This is a cancer that is spreading to America under th eguise of PC and humanitarian save the children cloaking that will destroy and is destroying the roots and core of our American heritage.

How about it Jooz and Pc'ers, show us irrefutable evidence the holocaust is real!!
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Video Documentaries:
Jewish Historian, David Cole, exposes Auschwitz:

Part One:
http://www.codoh.com/newsite/multimedia/Piper1of2.wmv

Part Two
http://www.codoh.com/newsite/multimedia/Piper2of2.wmv

The Jewish Declaration of War on Nazi Germany:
http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~falluga/J1.wmv


Articles:
Jon Weiner
Holocaust Creationism

Mark Weber:
Holocaust Commemoration Strengthens Jewish-Zionist Power

Mark Green:
Holocaust Fundamentalism

Edgar Steele:
ConspiracyPenPal Newsletter

French Politician to face trial for "Revisionism"
http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?...&id=1194932004

Historian David Irving to face trial in Austriahttp://
Your Financial News Source

Publisher Ernst Zundel awaiting trial in Germany- www.REVISIONISTS.com -- Ernst Zundel

Chemist German Rudolf awaits trial in Germany- Germar Rudolf: Persecution

The Jewish Declaration of War on Nazi Germany:
The Jewish Declaration of War on Nazi Germany: The Economic Boycott of 1933. M. Raphael Johnson, Ph.D.

JUDEA DECLARES WAR ON GERMANY
Binjamin Wilkomirski, a major Holocaust biographer, exposed as a fraudhttp://
Real Horrors, Phony Claims

The Red Cross – “No Evidence of Genocide”
The Truth Seeker - A Factual Appraisal by the Red Cross


THE ZIONAZIREPORT: Zionist Information

----------------------------------------------------------



See, thats why Hitler lost the war? He gassed all his free labor!!!!

So do people really believe the holycaust lie or is it just those reaping the benefits from it?

The whole holocaust fantasy is frankly laughable when a person tries to logically make sensse out of it. Here we have a military commander who has the smarts to take over all of europe, park subs in New York Harbor and he was so damn dumb he gassed all his free labor instead of just working them to death?

The bottom line people is if we let them get away with this one there will be no end to the lies that those in office will spin to extort money for their own (collective) gain. This is a cancer that is spreading to America under th eguise of PC and humanitarian save the children cloaking that will destroy and is destroying the roots and core of our American heritage.

How about it Jooz and Pc'ers, show us irrefutable evidence the holocaust is real!!
.

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The Most Debated Question of Our Time
WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST ?
By Dr. Edward.R. Fields

"Since the Second World War, Jews have been treated with silk gloves. Without Auschwitz, there would be no Israel."

- by Nathan Goldmann, the Founder of Israel as quoted from Paris Match, December 29, 1979

The "Holocaust" has given Israel a tremendous psychological advantage over the Gentile world, particularly America and Germany. By exploiting the guilt complex instilled in non-Jews, they have obtained:

Over $65 billion in aid from Germany.
Over $55 billion in aid from America. Israel, a prosperous country, receives $3.2 billion, (or $8 million a day) in foreign aid - more than any other country.
The 45,000 Jewish immigrants from Russia have the highest annual quota after Mexico. They enter as "refugees" without having to prove persecution! As "refugees" they are automatically entitled to full welfare benefits not subject to welfare reform cuts.
Nonstop holocaust brainwashing in schools, TV, movies and books has placed Israel and organized Jewry above criticism!
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Official Holocaust Figures Reduced
Immediately after World War II, Allied authorities declared that "Jews had been gassed" in all German concentration camps. It later discovered that the many bodies photographed in the camps died during the waning days of the war - from typhus, cold and starvation. Simon Wiesenthal, of the "Holocaust Center" in Los Angeles, stated in Books and Bookmen, April 1975, page 5, "No gassing took place in any camp on German soil." The Jew L.P. Beria headed the Soviet NKVD secret police from 1938 to 1953. In 1945, he announced that they had discovered a "holocaust" of six million Jews. This conveniently occurred only in camps in Poland! Beria would not allow any outside investigators to examine these sites. The Jewish-owned New York Times reported in 1945 that Soviet Russia supplied the figure of four million Jews having been put to death, "in the gas chambers of Auschwitz." However, in July of 1990, the Polish government reduced this figure to 1.1 million and it was accepted by Jewish groups. Despite this evidence, the "official figure" of six million dead was not lowered to three million!

(It should also be noted that Elizabeth Dole, president of the American Red Cross, and wife of former Sen. Bob Dole, revealed that the official death records from Auschwitz had been uncovered in the Soviet Archives. It listed 70,000 deaths from all causes.)


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No Holocaust Order Ever Given
The Germans are noted for being meticulous record keepers. There was no attempt made to destroy wartime records, 1,100 tons of which were seized in the U.S. Zone of occupation alone. British Historian, Colin Cross, writes in his biography of Hitler, on page 313: "There does not exist then, anything like a written order signed by Hitler for the extermination of the Jews in Europe."

Madagascar is a vast island off the coast of Africa in the Indian Ocean, then owned by France. Thousands of pages of German documents have been located providing a thorough study of the feasibility of establishing a Jewish homeland on the island of Madagascar. Plans were made for the reimbursement of the 25,000 French citizens who lived there. Even the government of France studied the plan. Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism, considered Madagascar a possible site for a Jewish state. He also considered Kenya, Africa, the Sinai from the Suez Canal to the Gaza Strip, and a huge area in southern Poland, but they really wanted Palestine.

The German Foreign Ministry on January 25, 1939 issued a document on the solution to the Jewish problem which stated: "The end policy in regard to the Jews is the emigration of all Jews living in the territory of the Old Reich."

In Auschwitz Notebooks, we read that all of the top German leadership supported this plan. "On November 12, 1938, Goring had mentioned the question of Madagascar. Himmler himself had dreamed of that since 1934, a witness assures us. After the armistice of June 1940 (surrender of France), the idea was propounded by the Foreign Ministry and approved by Himmler as well as by Hitler himself."

For these reasons SS official Reinhard Heydrich organized the Central Office for Jewish Emigration on February 11, 1939. Once the war began, this was no longer possible. Thus Hitler ordered the internment of Jews as enemy aliens and deported them to the east. On January 27, 1942, Hitler said: "The Jews must leave Europe. The best thing is that they go to Russia."

Roosevelt did the same thing as Hitler by ordering 120,000 Americans of Japanese descent living on the West Coast interned in concentration camps. In March 1942 Roosevelt accused them of being "security risks." The Japanese men, women and children were imprisoned behind barbed wire fences and armed guard towers in the blazing hot desert.
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The Nuremberg War Crimes Trial heard testimony from Hans Lammers as to what he considered the "Final Solution of The Jewish Problem." Lammers was Chief of the Reich Chancellery and personally close to Himmler and Hitler. Lammers said he asked Himmler what was the "final solution." Himmler replied: "The Jews must be evacuated from Germany!" He said that Hitler told him the same thing. In other words, "The Final Solution" was --emigration! When asked, "when did you first learn that five million Jews had been exterminated," Lammers replied that it was "here" at the Nuremberg trials! Herman Goring also told the court that the first time he had heard anything about a holocaust was, "right here at Nuremberg!"

Auschwitz was a massive military-industrial complex of 39 camps of which 19 mainly employed Jews. The factories at the "Monowitz No. 16 Camp" alone employed 126,000 workers. Holocaust expert, Leon Poliakov of Paris, in Breviary of Hate, page 134, in 1979 wrote that the Jewish Warsaw Ghetto was one of the Germans' "most important supply centers. The second in economic importance was the Lodz ghetto because it manufactured all kinds of goods, and, in particular, its textile industries constituted support of great value to the German economy."

Heinrich Himmler feared a typhus epidemic in the camps. Eastern European Jews were very unhygienic and were often blamed for the spread of typhus. On December 28, 1942, Himmler ordered that, "the death rate in the camps must be reduced at all costs." (Source, Reitlinger's book, The Final Solution.) " (Source, Nuremberg Trial Document No. 1523.) The death rate had indeed been reduced from 8.5% in July 1942 to 2.8% in June 1943.

On April 17, 1943, Hitler asked Admiral Horthy, regent of Hungary for, "100, 000 Jews to work on a new pursuit plane program." (Source, Reitlinger's book, Die Endlosung, 1956, page 478.) In May 1944 Hitler personally ordered that 200,000 more Jews be put to work in construction and "other important military works."

The Jews were vital to the German war industry. It would have been counter productive to exterminate them. In fact, the SS arrested Karl Koch, commandant of Buchenwald, for mistreating and unjustly executing some prisoners. After being found guilty by a military court, Koch was sentenced to death and shot. If there was actually a "holocaust" he would have been honored instead of executed.

Shindler's List features Commandant Amon Goeth, who in reality did abuse prisoners. However, the film fails to inform viewers that he had been arrested by the SS and was in prison awaiting trial at war's end. Most of the gruesome pictures of bodies we see in "made for TV" holocaust dramas are those who died of starvation and disease during the final chaotic months of the war. An example is Dachau. Some 54 died in January 1944 and 101 in February 1944. When food and medical supplies could not be delivered due to Allied bombings, 2,888 died in January and 3,977 in February 1945.



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The Impossibility of Mass Gassings
Auschwitz had no mass graves. The cremation of four million bodies would have left 15,000 tons of ash which was never found. Many tons of coal would have been necessary for such mass cremations. Initially, the Soviets told conflicting stories about how the six million perished in the camps under their control. At first they claimed that the inmates had been "steamed" to death. On December 5, 1945, a Communist judge issued the following "Accusation No. 6" against defendant Hans Frank at Nuremberg:

"A large boiler for the production of superheated steam was injected into the interior of the rooms. The doors are closed hermetically and the long asphyxiation of the victims by the steam begins. At the start, screams came from inside, they die down slowly; after 15 minutes, the executions are completed."

This story was not believable. It was then changed to allege that trucks were backed up to the "death chambers" and carbon monoxide gas was pumped into the rooms. This claim too was "forgotten" and the Soviets then charged that the Germans changed the "steam chambers" into "gas chambers."

The Soviets came up with a novel idea of how the Jews were exterminated at the Belzec camp. "The Jews were ordered to undress as though to take a bath. They were led in fact into a building that could hold hundreds of people. The water was filled up to their necks. Then a powerful electric current was sent into the metal flooring and within a few seconds all the Jews, thousands at a time, were dead."

Soviet prosecutor L.N. Smirnov actually read this accusation into the record at the December 19, 1945, session of the Nuremberg trial. This story finally evolved to execution by "Zyklon B" gas. This was a widely used pesticide to kill lice which was the biggest health threat in the camps. Had the Germans actually wanted to perform mass exterminations, they had products one-thousand times more deadly such as Sarin and Tabun nerve gas!

Austrian Engineer Walter Luftl issued a report in March 1992, in which he found that, "Zyklon B is utterly unsuited for the purposes of systematic mass murder."

Fred Leuchter, America's foremost expert on executions, took a team of investigators to Auschwitz in 1988 and reported: "I traveled to Poland to investigate the alleged execution gas chamber facilities at the three concentration camps of Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek. My forensic analysis and subsequent report proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that there were no gas execution facilities operated by the Nazis at these sites."

Leuchter also examined the capacity of the so-called "gas chamber building" at Birkenau. The Nuremberg Tribunal's document No. L-022 stated: "1,765,000 Jews were gassed at Birkenau between April 1942 and April 1944." However, Leuchter found that even if used at full capacity "only 105,688" persons could have been "gassed." His team scraped forensic samples from brick, mortar and concrete to find traces of cyanide compounds which would be present for centuries. They were submitted to the Alpha Analytical Laboratories of Ashland, Massachusetts. In March 1988, the Alpha report found that no cyanide elements, consistent with what could be expected to be found in a gas chamber, were present.

A retired German judge, Dr. Wilhelm Staglich said: "The extermination thesis stands or falls with the allegation that Auschwitz was a 'death factory.'"

Fred Leuchter's finding: "We have provided the definitive proof that there were no execution gas chambers utilized for genocidal purposes by the Germans at these wartime camps. The simple fact is that the holocaust story is not true."



How Many Jews Actually Died?
The World Almanac for 1947, in quoting figures supplies by the American Jewish Committee states that the world Jewish population in 1939 was 15,688,259. The New York Times of February 22, 1948, stated that the world Jewish population ranged from 15,600,000 to 18,700,000, excluding some 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine. How could the Jewish population have increased so rapidly after losing six million during World War II? Walter Sanning, the author of Dissolution of European Jewry, says that no less than 2,200,000 Jews had emigrated out of Europe leaving 2,847,000 Jews residing there at the height of the German occupation in June 1941. After the war, 3,375,000 Jews, according to the Red Cross, applied for holocaust reparations. This figure included many of the emigrants. Thus, the actual number of those who died at the camps from all causes ranges between 150,000 and 300,000.


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"Holocaust" Silences Opposition
Hardly a week goes by without a new holocaust story in the media. Bernard Postal wrote in Jewish Week, July 14, 1979:

"Not until the Holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in national (political) campaigns. The Holocaust puts a taboo on overt anti-Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists."

Zionist spokesmen have often boasted that, "The shattering effect of the holocaust on the Christian conscience results in a feeling of collective indebtedness to the Jews."

The Red Cross issued a massive, three volume, 1,600 page report on the camps after the war, part of which reads: "In the final moths of the war, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimed an increasing number of victims." ... Gen. Kaltenbrunner. . . Allowed the Red Cross to distribute relief packages and one (Red Cross) delegate was authorized to stay in each camp (as an observer). Does this sound like a holocaust?


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What About Real Holocausts?
Why doesn't the film industry or news media produce documentaries about the numerous true holocausts of Gentiles during this century such as:

The Soviet Holocaust of Christian Russian Kulak farmers. (1924 - 1930) - 15 million exterminated!

The Holocaust of the Ukranian farmers, (1930- 1933) - 7 million starved to death.

The Holocaust of Russian political prisoners, (1919 - 1949) - 12 million perished.

The Pol Pot Communist Holocaust in Cambodia (1975) - 2.5 million slaughtered.

Armenian Holocaust by the Turks, (1915) - 1.5 million people killed.

Bear in mind that the Jews are the only racial group with an organization like the World Jewish congress which wields fearsome power!

Read how the Jews themselves predicted the Holocaust!
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The Red Cross Report is of value in that it first clarifies the legitimate circumstances under which Jews were detained in concentration camps, i.e. as enemy aliens. In describing the two categories of civilian internees, the Report distinguishes the second type as "Civilians deported on administrative grounds (in German, "Schutzhäftlinge"), who were arrested for political or racial motives because their presence was considered a danger to the State or the occupation forces" (Vol. 111, p. 73). These persons, it continues, "were placed on the same footing as persons arrested or imprisoned under common law for security reasons." (P.74).

The Report admits that the Germans were at first reluctant to permit supervision by the Red Cross of people detained on grounds relating to security, but by the latter part of 1942, the ICRC obtained important concessions from Germany. They were permitted to distribute food parcels to major concentration camps in Germany from August 1942, and "from February 1943 onwards this concession was extended to all other camps and prisons" (Vol. 111, p. 78). The ICRC soon established contact with camp commandants and launched a food relief programme which continued to function until the last months of 1945, letters of thanks for which came pouring in from Jewish internees.

Red Cross Recipients Were Jews

The Report states that "As many as 9,000 parcels were packed daily. From the autumn of 1943 until May 1945, about 1,112,000 parcels with a total weight of 4,500 tons were sent off to the concentration camps" (Vol. III, p. 80). In addition to food, these contained clothing and pharmaceutical supplies. "Parcels were sent to Dachau, Buchenwald, Sangerhausen, Sachsenhausen, Oranienburg, Flossenburg, Landsberg-am-Lech, Flöha, Ravensbrück, Hamburg-Neuengamme, Mauthausen, Theresienstadt, Auschwitz, Bergen-Belsen, to camps near Vienna and in Central and Southern Germany. The principal recipients were Belgians, Dutch, French, Greeks, Italians, Norwegians, Poles and stateless Jews" (Vol. III, p. 83).

In the course of the war, "The Committee was in a position to transfer and distribute in the form of relief supplies over twenty million Swiss francs collected by Jewish welfare organisations throughout the world, in particular by the American Joint Distribution Committee of New York" (Vol. I, p. 644). This latter organisation was permitted by the German Government to maintain offices in Berlin until the American entry into the war. The ICRC complained that obstruction of their vast relief operation for Jewish internees came not from the Germans but from the tight Allied blockade of Europe. Most of their purchases of relief food were made in Rumania, Hungary and Slovakia.

The ICRC had special praise for the liberal conditions which prevailed at Theresienstadt up to the time of their last visits there in April 1945. This camp, "where there were about 40,000 Jews deported from various countries was a relatively privileged ghetto" (Vol. III, p. 75). According to the Report, "'The Committee's delegates were able to visit the camp at Theresienstadt (Terezin) which was used exclusively for Jews and was governed by special conditions. From information gathered by the Committee, this camp had been started as an experiment by certain leaders of the Reich ... These men wished to give the Jews the means of setting up a communal life in a town under their own administration and possessing almost complete autonomy. . . two delegates were able to visit the camp on April 6th, 1945. They confirmed the favourable impression gained on the first visit" (Vol. I, p . 642).





Here I thought Hitler was out to Kill Em All and G-D Sort Em out!!! What a strange way to treat Jooz that were gassed or about to be gassed!!!


Why are the Jooz lying about the way they were treated?

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What never made sense to me about all this Holyocaust stuff is:

1) Why would hitler exterminate his FREE work force?

2) What kind of dumb ass would put all those Jooz on trains and haul them from all over europe to camps in Germany just to gas them when they arrived?
3) We see footage and pictures of so many Jooz that were starving to death.
Why would Hitler be so damn dumb to waste any food at all on these people? Maybe he hauled them all the way to Germany just so he could watch them starve too?


4) What possible reason would ANY country pass laws against dissenting or disagreeing with the holocaust account?
Well, there is dumb, then there is canuck, but now there is Koko.

To answer. Because the mere existence of Jews was a contamination of Germany for Hitler. Gas those who couldn't work, work those who could.

Because it was easier that way. Hitler didn't want to come out and give the world a huge propaganda victory by publicizing his genocide. Better to tell people that the jews were being "concentrated". Made everything easier to control.

Slave labor is remarkably cheap and it doesn't require that much food. If he was going value from their services greater than the cost of the food, then why not do it?

Finally you do have ONE good question. There should be no laws against denying the holocaust. It is incumbent upon decent humans to expose the deniers and their stupidity. Making it illegal makes it a free speech issues and gives assholes like you a dignity you do not deserve.
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Slave labor is remarkably cheap and it doesn't require that much food. If he was going value from their services greater than the cost of the food, then why not do it?
Slave labor is cheap if and only if the slaves are disposable. Which, in this case, they were.

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Finally you do have ONE good question. There should be no laws against denying the holocaust. It is incumbent upon decent humans to expose the deniers and their stupidity. Making it illegal makes it a free speech issues and gives assholes like you a dignity you do not deserve.
If you truly believe in free speech, you would not qualify your statement with "giving assholes like you a dignity you do not deserve".

Free speech is free speech. We know why it works. Don't qualify it; qualifying it diminishes YOU, not the assholes.
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Nobody has ever been able to do anything but the kind of dumbshit baby name calling liek above. It ahs been shown more the n once here that locating arresting and trnsporting millions of people from the Erastern Front was absolutley impossible and illogical. IT never happened. ITs like saying a 10 year old can lift a skyscraper. It not a deabte its not about who thinks they have a docuyment from either side.

The GHermans just had no means of commting this.
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