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07-10-2008, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jebe
wouldnt it be just damned fantastic if we were privy to ALL the shananigans around the world, so we could draw a logical concept of WHAT THE FUCKS GOING ON ?
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Sure, that would make things nice and simple. However, we've done pretty well in describing the world around us with science and have so far not needed God to come down and spell it all out for us. That is to say, there is enough information floating around that can be sifted through with a cautious and skeptical eye to get a pretty damned good idea of what's happening.
What does this train have to do with dems?
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07-10-2008, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Back Atcha
Sure, that would make things nice and simple. However, we've done pretty well in describing the world around us with science and have so far not needed God to come down and spell it all out for us. That is to say, there is enough information floating around that can be sifted through with a cautious and skeptical eye to get a pretty damned good idea of what's happening.
What does this train have to do with dems?
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just like their refusal to tell the world about the Hue massacers, and instead to focus on Mia Lai, here you have another " sound heard on the planet earth ", and there is very little published about it.
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07-13-2008, 04:27 AM
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It was an Ammuntion train. It is not surprising to have soldiers exergerate it. Hitler abandond atomic devolpment. He was about conquering not destroying.
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1944 Aug 2, The US 383rd Squadron assigned to Honnington, England, executed an air raid on a German ammunition train at Remy, France. Lt. Houston Lee Braley Jr. was killed in his downed P-51.
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During WWII a flight of P-51s attacked a German train next to the town of Remy France. The train was a munitions train that blew up as the 4th Mustang was attacking ripping off the tail. No time to bail out for the pilot since he was too low (Same reason why the pilot of Miss Ashley was killed in 1999 at Reno Air Races). The explosion of the train broke the stained Medieval glass in the church. Being a small town they never replaced it. However, around 4 years ago, the pilots found out about this and have been raising money to replace the stained glass windows. They reached their goal. Go to http://www.remy.org/ to find out more.
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07-13-2008, 04:37 AM
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Mystery solved........
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07-13-2008, 04:54 AM
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Hue and mai lai happned. The Americans are responsible for what they caused. Thats were focus should be. Americans fal wayyyy short of there claims of Moral superiority and your called on it frequently and rightfully.
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07-13-2008, 04:56 AM
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Of course they happened. We are responsible and should be called on it.
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07-13-2008, 05:03 AM
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Of course they happened. We are responsible and should be called on it.
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I get this same kind of thing about Isreal. Caliming I i pick on thjem. But Americans think Isreal is there ally. They are repsonsibnle for Isreali actions. Thats why Isreal recives the focus.
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07-13-2008, 05:07 AM
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I get this same kind of thing about Isreal. Caliming I i pick on thjem. But Americans think Isreal is there ally. They are repsonsibnle for Isreali actions. Thats why Isreal recives the focus.
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Are you saying we are responsible for what Israel does (as an ally) or we make Israel do things? Or we do things at Israel's bidding?
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07-13-2008, 05:17 AM
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Are you saying we are responsible for what Israel does (as an ally) or we make Israel do things? Or we do things at Israel's bidding?
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Ymost americans regard Isreal as an ally. Yet they have done nothg but harm to you. When Isreal murders childern and innocents in the occupied terroritories. Everybody knows these actions are funded by the Americans. If I own a gun store and I sell a weapon to a murderer I can be held responsible in some fasion for the murderes actions. This is why these people hate you. Its completely understandble to all but the americans. Its ludicris to say the ME isnt hinged on the issues in Palestine. It is trhe primary contributor. Sure nobdy would like you even with out it. But that too is because of American actions abroad in other issues.
NO doubt the trailor park brigade will resond in teh coming day with bullshti rants about Nazis...the war..feeding africa and all the usual raly cries of the right wing redneck. They all mean exactyl fuck all to the world. Then there simple lttle peanut minds will get all agressive and throw tauntrums. These fools want to make war with the World cause they arent liked. Stupid. What kind of knucklehead things hurting people will make them like or respect or fear you. Even if a guy beatrs me up. I wont fear him. Il hate him. If I can fight him with fists ill go get a gun. They just dont understand that. its fucking silly.
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07-13-2008, 05:26 AM
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Lots of Americans are concerned about our image and actions abroad. Unfortunately not enough. We do go through the world like we can do no wrong. Some day we'll get our come uppance. This does not mean I think we are responsible for all the bad things that happen in the world. We are arrogant.
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