The Me 262 is deplyed in 1940 instead of 1944

How, if at all, does this change things, for Germany, the US and the UK ?

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try the 280 or full developement of the he 100 in 1938.

A heavy bomber would have made a much more significant difference then the 262. Not that the 262 employed earlier and properly wouldn't have had a profound effect. But if that fat tub of pig shit Goring was still allowed a hand in the show then he could still find a way to fuck it all up.

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Everything you just said is total bullshit

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Offing Hitler, Himmler, and Goring right after the "Night of the Long Knives" would've made a Hell of a change. Once the homosexual Ernst Rohm and his band of SA thugs were removed,,,the Wermacht would've NEVER allowed itself to be placed in a 2 front War, with Hitler gone too.

The General Staff sure screwed up by allowing that "Paper Hanger" to continue breathing.

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Hitler wanted the 262 used as a bomber...but I think it's imact would have been felt most as a fighter

Would it have prolonged the war ?
What if the Japanese had gotten there hands on some ?

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nothing. the mustangs were going just as fast as the 262 when it entered service. now............read about the heinkle 100. 425mph in 1938.

Not much really, the Germans were stretched too thin fighting in the Soviet Union. The Germans needed more trucks, more tanks, more men and more planes of any kind. The war was won because of production. The USA and USSR simply produced tons more stuff than the German economy could

We would have eventually nuked Germany had the war been prolonged by the introduction of the ME 262 earlier. The nuking of Germany would have intimidated Japan into an unconditional surrender.
The ME 262 was a non-factor, it had less than 10 minutes of flight time, it was no faster than the P-51 and as Pat pointed out, Germany was incapable of producing the numbers of ME 262's to have much of an effect.

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Good stuff...thanks guys

You often hear rumblings about how we are "lucky" the 262 was never used till the end of the war

Thanks for the prospective

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These are tough to discuss because so many factors enter into it. It had crappy range, so I am not sure how much an impact it would have had on the Battle of Britain.

Also the US and UK came up with tactics fairly quickly, and this would have mostly nullified any advantage (the 262 was faster, but the P-51 and Corsairs were more maneuverable).

Furthermore, the US and UK also probably would have come up with their own jet technology fairly quickly if forced to.

In the end I would say probably not much. The US and UK had far more resources and safe areas to operate them from.

Of course an argument can be made for a serious change, based on further assumptions regarding increases in range and further development. But additional "what ifs" really become tenuous to argue.