I doubt it sat well with Union soldiers to hear that they were fighting against slavery . . . . two years into the war, rather than fighting to save the Union, which they were told, when in fact it was more because of tariffs, state rights, and increased centralized power.

After the war blacks were still not given equal rights (and being able to vote was not always a given) in some northern states, and some areas had laws against no black immigration even before the war started. The abolishonists were a small minority.

yes. and lincoln was grasping for straws from the get go. i dont care alot for bush. but lincoln did this to his very own people. i only listen to the bush bashing if that very same person has more dislike for lincoln. still bush get high praise from me. he didnt ask for his hand. it was delt shittedly to him that way. lincoln asked for the crappy hand. and relished the power that came with it. why j. wilkes booth waited so long, id realy like to know. you arent supposed to do this against your own countrymen. the WORST president EVER. i puke on his memory.

Found it.

The entire affair, beginning to end, was intended to recruit the Royal Canadian Mounted Police into Lee's service, but the joany rebs couldn't meet the Mounties' fee to provide greedy cum-suck Lee with klondike gold, and that's why it all came down the way it did and faded into obscurity among the scumholes at AWE.

By the way, who stole the special ingredients for fenian's b cake, which obviously didn't work -- dom or smartspankme?

You'r busted. STFU.

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http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/his...tml#post566549

Lot of yammering, some good stuff too, some I have on ignore, and I am sure I am not missing anything there.

Lets get a cpuple things off the table though, before we all get any more stupid for the waste of bandwidth.

First and foremost...No one assembled 21 men, travaled 1500 miles to simply "rob a bank"
The phrase is over used, but this might ACTUALLY be, "The MOST stupid thing I ever heard"
Or at least , the stupidist thing since Bluedog claimed there are texts from the 1st century that prove the existance of god, or since Dum1 claimed Hillary Clinton is a neo con

moving on...

Second, there were from the first days of the conflict till the final days of the war, efforts by the CSA to forge an allience, be it covert or public, with Canada. This is a given that no one but a historical illiterate would deny

The only question, is to fill in the blanks as to the extent of the connection between this raid, and the war effort

That is all for now...carry on

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Argue with some..IGNORE the stupid

Yeah it hurts, you have been fucked by an Elephant !

"Happamia, sanoi kettu pihlajanmarjoista kun ei niihin yltänyt" ("Sour, said the fox about rowan berries, being unable to reach them"

sorry smart. how for is it from the extreme western missouri to martinsburg wva? thats how far the cole younger gang traveled to rob a bank.

First, where do you get the 1500 miles from? Even on teh off chance he did, it is doubtful his men did. I don't think Bennet came from Jackson, MS to rob the bank. They did already have men in the area of the Great Lakes.

Second, all it amounted to was a series of bank robberies, nothing else. It is asinine to think that Britain would have joined the side which was going to be the clear loser, not only that, they had NOTHING to gain. But they had penty to lose.

What is foolish is the notion that some bank robberies were giong to create a second front, which would have only been a second front for a few months. Plus, that second front would have been crushed, and they knew it. Britain toyed with the idea of helping the CSA when the CSA had a chance to win, that was over with by the fall of 1864.

Oh, and Hillary Clinton is a neocon.

ummmm.....there is a big difference beteeen travaling overland between Mo and WV, and bringing 20 men into VT by way of Canada (????)
Be for real !

It is the ultimate in "Tiny whales live in mud puddles" one dimensional anti logic to beleive this was a simple bank robbery, especially when you take into account what we know about the efforts to bring canada and the Brits into the war.

The "just a robbery" theory does not hold water, not even close

If the st Albans raid was a "robbery", 9/11 was a "Plane crash"

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Argue with some..IGNORE the stupid

Yeah it hurts, you have been fucked by an Elephant !

"Happamia, sanoi kettu pihlajanmarjoista kun ei niihin yltänyt" ("Sour, said the fox about rowan berries, being unable to reach them"