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06-15-2008, 03:19 PM
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Anything to do with the french?
I'm grasping now... lol..
Weren't the french and brits chummy duing this period?
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When if came to taking sides in the civil war, it was slavery that was the common denominator between France and Brittan. neither would support it
This is one of the reasons Davis did cartwheels to try to make the case that succession was a States right issue, NOT a slavery issue. For separate reasons, the Union made similar statements, but neither the French nor the British were buying it
Even when the British offered to “moderate” the war to an end, they wanted the South to get pretty much what they wanted, but slavery needed to be taken off the table
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06-15-2008, 03:21 PM
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When if came to taking sides in the civil war, it was slavery that was the common denominator between France and Brittan. neither would support it
This is one of the reasons Davis did cartwheels to try to make the case that succession was a Sates right issue, NOT va slavery issue. For separate reasons, the Union made similar statements, but neither the French nor the British were buying it
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Gotcha... Damn, now I am gonna have to do some research.
Where'd Dom go...
He left with my MA....
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06-15-2008, 03:22 PM
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Gotcha... Damn, now I am gonna have to do some research.
Where'd Dom go...
He left with my MA....
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Trust me dude...all he would have to offer is a GED and a medicaid card... at best
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06-15-2008, 03:26 PM
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Ahhh, was it that the subsequent trial of the raiders in Canada as soldiers acting under orders was an implicit recognition of the Confederacy by neutral Canada and thus the British?
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06-15-2008, 03:34 PM
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Ahhh, was it that the subsequent trial of the raiders in Canada as soldiers acting under orders was an implicit recognition of the Confederacy by neutral Canada and thus the British?
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This is just educated speculation on my part, but I think it would have been impossible to pull this off without the knowledge of some authorities in Canada, and by extensuion, the British, while others authorites would have been horrifed by the suggestion
The trial was clearly a way to please everyone, and a good chunk of the money they had taken, still ended up in the Conferderte treasury
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06-15-2008, 03:55 PM
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Can you transfer MAs to other people who trounce you in debate of your professed feild of study... I could really use the degree...
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Really curious idea, you pompous fucking nigger. Baaka Tu is a witless thread trasher.
Gak-Gak-Gak ...
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Again, not my area... but if I remember right, there was a threat of military escalation along the canadian border if things went too far. Of course this would cause the Union to have to split it's naval forces on two fronts.
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Over a fucking bank robbery. I don't know anything about this, but your so full of fucking shit they should kick you out of here.
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I'm way out of my league on this one though... It's been years since I've studied any history but the era and events surrounding the founders, and the Constitution.
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THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU NARCISSITIC SQUEEM.
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Anything to do with the french?
I'm grasping now... lol..
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Grasp, suck.
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06-15-2008, 03:56 PM
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This is just educated speculation on my part, but I think it would have been impossible to pull this off without the knowledge of some authorities in Canada, and by extensuion, the British, while others authorites would have been horrifed by the suggestion
The trial was clearly a way to please everyone, and a good chunk of the money they had taken, still ended up in the Conferderte treasury
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What do you have to support the idea that there was support for the raid? Just the fact that the bank was robbed that far north doesn't mean much to me either.
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06-15-2008, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by smart makes a comeback
This is just educated speculation on my part, but I think it would have been impossible to pull this off without the knowledge of some authorities in Canada, and by extensuion, the British, while others authorites would have been horrifed by the suggestion
The trial was clearly a way to please everyone, and a good chunk of the money they had taken, still ended up in the Conferderte treasury
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Sorry, as much as I would like to continue, I just received some bad news. My head is realing a bit and unable to concentrate on the topic.
I'll try to get back to it at some point...
Thanks Smart, I'm learning alot...
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06-15-2008, 04:02 PM
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Sorry, as much as I would like to continue, I just received some bad news. My head is realing a bit and unable to concentrate on the topic.
I'll try to get back to it at some point...
Thanks Smart, I'm learning alot...
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SHUT THE FUCK UP, BAKKA TU.
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06-15-2008, 04:08 PM
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What do you have to support the idea that there was support for the raid? Just the fact that the bank was robbed that far north doesn't mean much to me either.
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My thoughts are based on several things, not the least of which, was that 20 able bodied Southerners entering Canada in the fall of 1864 for what they claimed was a "vacation" made no sense, and would have had to attract the attention of some Canadian authority, were it not for someone in power managing the situation
The all too convenient outcome of the trail, with the raiders being released, and 2/3 of the money presumably reaching Confederated coffers, is another indication
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