More obscure history....Nothern most Confederate attack

Back Atcha · #11 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 01:38 PM

Oh, I would also like to point out that 350 dead compared to the relatively small number of troops involved, is quite bloody indeed.

smart makes a comeback · #12 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 01:39 PM

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wow this thread really took off

Well....dont give up hope.,...the battle of Oriskany thered started off with dumb asses like Dum1 trying to hijack it as well

Tell us what you know about a Confederate raid in a town in Northern new England, and the political implications surrounding it

Hint,…neutrality, the ability of the south to close diplomatic deals, or the lack there of, and "what if"

smart makes a comeback · #13 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 01:42 PM

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I still fail to see where she copied anything from wiki on the other thread. Your assertion that it was not bloody enough to make the list is opinion. Nothing more.

However, considering your last performance, perhaps you should check some sources before you reply with such force and arrogance, if for no other reason than to keep from looking foolish and then trying to save face by drawing issue with terms like bloodiest when the most pertinant clues where actually "least known battle" and "North American natives (Tory, Whig, and native Americans)". Trying to seize on this term "bloodiest" as a defense is lame at best.

I'm not saying you don't know your stuff, but maybe your zeal to beat down Smart got in the way of the facts. I'm just saying a quick reference check would have prevented that, even from wiki.

LOL....Dum1s attempts at semantics fail him yet again

So on to St Albans...,what do you think of the "what if" had the south been able to forge a deal with Canada via the UK ?

Dom1 · #14 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 01:43 PM

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It is sad, pathetic and funny all at once

flawless source of information ?

Dude, he is a babbling idiot...and is famous for it

Anyone in their right mind after being so soundly exposed as being completely ignorant on a subject, would just sneak away and STFU, but the Dum1 cant help himself

Quasi knowledge is one downside of the information age, Lucky thing it is so easy to spot

What is easy to spot is someone lying about their creds, which you are.

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Originally Posted by Back Atcha

I still fail to see where she copied anything from wiki on the other thread. Your assertion that it was not bloody enough to make the list is opinion. Nothing more.

However, considering your last performance, perhaps you should check some sources before you reply with such force and arrogance, if for no other reason than to keep from looking foolish and then trying to save face by drawing issue with terms like bloodiest when the most pertinant clues where actually "least known battle" and "North American natives (Tory, Whig, and native Americans)". Trying to seize on this term "bloodiest" as a defense is lame at best.

I'm not saying you don't know your stuff, but maybe your zeal to beat down Smart got in the way of the facts. I'm just saying a quick reference check would have prevented that, even from wiki.

How about when she and wiki said it was one of the bloodiest battles when it most definately was not? It is not just my opinion htat it was not one of the bloodiest, just look at the numbers.

Being one of the 'bloodiest' is descriptive of the battle, so it was relevant, and both fatty and wiki got it wrong, or do you agree that it was?

I said I missed the indian part, as far as being one of the least known that means nothing. Valcour island is also one of the least known despite some military historians putting a LOT of value in it, one saying it was the most important. I don't agree with that assessment, but I do agree it was the most important in allowing for victory at Saratoga.

Back Atcha · #15 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dom1

What is easy to spot is someone lying about their creds, which you are.

How about when she and wiki said it was one of the bloodiest battles when it most definately was not? It is not just my opinion htat it was not one of the bloodiest, just look at the numbers.

Being one of the 'bloodiest' is descriptive of the battle, so it was relevant, and both fatty and wiki got it wrong, or do you agree that it was?

I said I missed the indian part, as far as being one of the least known that means nothing. Valcour island is also one of the least known despite some military historians putting a LOT of value in it, one saying it was the most important. I don't agree with that assessment, but I do agree it was the most important in allowing for victory at Saratoga.

How could you miss it? It was such a short post. Is this representative of your academic work?

Anyway, St. Albans... I believe the big deal surrounding this was the breaking of the The Neutrality Proclamation of 1861.

Dom1 · #16 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Back Atcha

Oh, I would also like to point out that 350 dead compared to the relatively small number of troops involved, is quite bloody indeed.

So if five people were fighting and one died then it would be the bloodiest?????

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Originally Posted by smart makes a comeback

Well....dont give up hope.,...the battle of Oriskany thered started off with dumb asses like Dum1 trying to hijack it as well

Tell us what you know about a Confederate raid in a town in Northern new England, and the political implications surrounding it

Hint,…neutrality, the ability of the south to close diplomatic deals, or the lack there of, and "what if"

I wasn't hijacking, I was answering, get it right.

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LOL....Dum1s attempts at semantics fail him yet again

So on to St Albans...,what do you think of the "what if" had the south been able to forge a deal with Canada via the UK ?

I was right, because this St. Albans "engagement" was the glorified bank robbery.

Back Atcha · #17 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 01:47 PM

Can you transfer MAs to other people who trounce you in debate of your professed feild of study... I could really use the degree...

Dom1 · #18 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Back Atcha

How could you miss it? It was such a short post. Is this representative of your academic work?

Anyway, St. Albans... I believe the big deal surrounding this was the breaking of the The Neutrality Proclamation of 1861.

Didn't you tell us one time about your great scores on some test in Michigan (or maybe some other irrelevant test)? As if that means anything, but even saying it does, why it taht you make so many mistakes that you don't own up to?

Read about St. Albans, it was a bank robbery and some historians have weighed in on the motives of the confederate soldiers. Put things in perspective.