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Old 06-05-2008, 12:14 PM
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>>>Jaysus, where did that come from? I am personally responsible enough to not buy either drugs or diamonds. If left up to me, the Jews would be outta business. Which is where I'd like them to be.
But it isn't up to you. It is up to society. And society wants their drugs and diamonds.

See, the point you silly twit is that you don't get what you are saying. You think you are better than the Canucks and Icy's of the world, but you aren't. You are as much a conspiracy nut as they are.

Are some jews in the drug trade? Yes, but so are some members of nearly EVERY other ethnic group. Yet you only focus on one. As for diamonds. Do you think that Jews are responsible for West Africa? Please, the Oppenheimer cartel would be overjoyed not to have another source of diamonds. Other people are primarily benefiting, yet all you can see is the Jew.

The reason for this is simple. You hate jews. Just like canuck and icy, they are your kin folk. And please don't pull out the lame half assed "I like jews, I just dislike what Israel is doing". That is crap. One can attack Israel and not be anti semitic, but you are not stopping there. You continue on to full scale "evil jews control the world" lunacy of a canuck. They are your brethren your soul mates so to speak.

Embrace the horror that is your mind dude. It is the bed you created.
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Old 06-05-2008, 12:32 PM
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But it isn't up to you. It is up to society.
>>>Don't confuse the two. I ain't "society".

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And society wants their drugs and diamonds.
>>>Don't confuse those two, either.

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See, the point you silly twit is that you don't get what you are saying. You think you are better than the Canucks and Icy's of the world, but you aren't. You are as much a conspiracy nut as they are.
>>>Where does it say that I think I'm better? And we've covered the conspiracy ground before. So what?

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Do you think that Jews are responsible for West Africa?
>>>They are ass-deep in W. Africa. The Hassidic Jews are the largest diamond merchants (and money launderers) in the world. But because of your "Jews can do no wrong" mindset, they can get away with whatever they want - right under your nose, in plain view, in the middle of NYC.

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The reason for this is simple. You hate jews.
>>>Yes, indeed, that is simple.
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Old 06-05-2008, 12:47 PM
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>>>Don't confuse the two. I ain't "society".


>>>Don't confuse those two, either.


>>>Where does it say that I think I'm better? And we've covered the conspiracy ground before. So what?


>>>They are ass-deep in W. Africa. The Hassidic Jews are the largest diamond merchants (and money launderers) in the world. But because of your "Jews can do no wrong" mindset, they can get away with whatever they want - right under your nose, in plain view, in the middle of NYC.


>>>Yes, indeed, that is simple.
Thanks for confirmation of the fact that you are simple, bigoted, ignorant, racist, and probably a few other things.

Sort of guessed it, but nice to have confirmation.
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Old 06-05-2008, 12:58 PM
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Thanks for confirmation of the fact that you are simple, bigoted, ignorant, racist, and probably a few other things.

Sort of guessed it, but nice to have confirmation.
>>>Seems to me that you like to argue like a woman. Are you a woman? Just say "yes" and I'll be understanding.
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Old 06-05-2008, 01:01 PM
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>>>Seems to me that you like to argue like a woman. Are you a woman? Just say "yes" and I'll be understanding.
No point in arguing with an idiot. As the old expression goes, lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.

Just wanted to know. You sound a lot like Patriot. Someone who can be fun to debate on certain other subjects, but on certain subjects a complete mouth foaming nut. It helps to know which is which with people like you.

I am me, who you think I am really doesn't matter.
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Old 06-05-2008, 01:50 PM
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I don't blame the suppliers as much as the buyers. On drugs or diamonds, the only value they have is what the buyers put on it. If the buyers stopped tomorrow, the buyers would disappear.

But we all know that personal responsibility isn't exactly your bag. Much easier to blame an outsider for your failures, eh?

Well, without the suppliers there wouldn't be any buyers...
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Old 06-05-2008, 03:03 PM
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The American group the ADL was founded to defend a Jew, Leo Frank, accused of raping and murdering a five year old girl, Mary Fagan, in his Atlanta pencil factory in 1913. The ADL claims he was innocent. A mob lynched him after the governor commuted his death sentence to life in prison.

Though AP and Reuters both ran stories on the episode, US media conglomerates refused to carry the story on television news, again saying the story would prejudice Americans against Jews.

Jewish gangsters in Russia have become increasingly linked to traffic in "white slaves" and prostitutes through Israel, according to a recent report in the Jerusalem Post. Israel turns an official blind eye to forced prostitution, and does not punish Israeli citizens who choose to own "sex slaves", as long as the slaves are foreign and non-Jews.


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<http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4070446,00.html>

Special Investigation
British link to 'snuff' videos

Jason Burke in London, Amelia Gentleman in Moscow, Philip Willan in Rome

Observer - Sunday October 1, 2000

Britain is a key link in the biggest ever international investigation into the production and supply of paedophile 'snuff' movies - in which children are murdered on film - an Observer investigation can reveal.

The key suspect in the inquiry, a Russian who was arrested last week in Moscow for distribution of thousands of sadistic child porn videos and pictures, was traced following the seizure of his products from British paedophiles.

Dmitri Vladimirovich Kuznetsov, a 30-year-old former car mechanic in Moscow, was identified after British Customs and police traced the origin of violent child porn videos found in the UK back to Russia.

Last week Italian police seized 3,000 of Kuznetsov's videos on their way to clients in Italy, sparking an international hunt for paedophiles who have bought his products. The Italian investigators say the material includes footage of children dying during abuse. Prosecutors in Naples are considering charging those who have bought the videos with complicity in murder. They say some may have specifically requested films of killings.

British authorities yesterday confirmed that scores of Kuznetsov's videos, produced in his small flat in Moscow's rundown Vykhino district, have been found in the UK. They are concerned that 'snuff' movies in which children are killed may have also been imported.

Around a dozen British men have already been arrested and charged with offences alleged to be connected to the Russian tapes. A second Russian child porn ring, which allegedly had a British distributor, was broken up earlier this year. The investigation into the importing of violent Russian child porn which led to the identification and subsequent imprisonment of Kuznetsov started about 15 months ago after Customs seized material coming into the country. Since then there have been dozens of other finds.

'We have seen some very, very nasty stuff involving sadistic abuse of very young children, but actual deaths on film takes it a whole step further. That is very worrying,' said one senior customs officer this weekend.

British paedophiles were paying between £50 and £100 for Kuznetsov's tapes, the officer said. Further fees were paid for access to a website that features pictures of extremely violent abuse.

Though two men arrested with Kuznetsov have also been imprisoned by Moscow authorities, only one of the three remains behind bars. Dmitri Ivanov was sentenced to 11 years for actually participating in the abuse that was being filmed. The others were released under an amnesty aimed at clearing Russia's overcrowded prisons.

When officers from the Moscow Criminal Investigation Department raided Kuznetsov's flat they found two boys in a makeshift studio. They seized a huge quantity of films and other pornographic material as well as lists of clients in Italy, Germany, America and Britain.

Last week Italian detectives moved in, following months of inquiries, and arrested eight people. The police searched more than 600 homes and say they now have evidence against about 500 people. Among the suspects were businessmen, public employees and a university student. Several of them were married, with children of their own. Hundreds of people are also under investigation in Germany.

The Russian videos, which had been ordered over the internet, were intercepted when they came into Italy by post, repackaged and then delivered by undercover police officers. They cost between £300 and £4,000, depending on what type of film was ordered.

Covert film of young children naked or undressing was known as a 'SNIPE' video. The most appalling category was code-named 'Necros Pedo' in which children were raped and tortured until they died.

Police in Russia and the UK believe that Kuznetsov and his associates have been in business for more than two years in which time they are believed to have recruited around 100 boys - aged between nine and 15 - to be filmed.

'Most of the children were rounded up from railway stations. A lot of them came from the suburbs, or surrounding regions and were from deprived, problem families,' said Kiril Mazurin, a police spokesman.

'Usually when children like this arrive in the capital, they've got no idea where to go and hang around in the station. It's very easy to entice this kind of teenager - with a promise of a warm bed or a trip to the cinema.'

Many were lured away from orphanages. 'Children are not locked in,' said Mazurin. 'Anyone can come along and promise them a meal at McDonalds. It doesn't take any more than that."

Some children were paid a commission to find other boys willing to be filmed, according to reports in the Russian press, for a fee of between 100 and 300 roubles (£2.50 - £7).

Kuznetsov had given up his job in 1998 to devote himself to the lucrative pornography industry. A self-taught computer expert, he was in the process of upgrading his equipment to allow him to e-mail videos directly to clients when police raided him.

Many customers repeatedly ordered videos from him. The Naples newspaper Il Mattino published a transcript of an alleged email exchange between a prospective client and the Russian vendors.

'Promise me you're not ripping me off,' says the Italian.

'Relax, I can assure you this one really dies,' the Russian responds.

'The last time I paid and I didn't get what I wanted.'

'What do you want?'

'To see them die.'
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Old 06-05-2008, 03:05 PM
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Well, without the suppliers there wouldn't be any buyers...
Sure there would be, the desire to buy would still be there, they just wouldn't be able to purchase anything. And if history is any indication, if the desire is there, no amount of making something illegal is going to stop people from wanting to buy.
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:35 PM
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Jews are like flies.....where there is sh...you see jews
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Old 06-07-2008, 02:06 PM
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Jews are like flies.....where there is sh...you see jews
Good point!
You are chock full of intelligent information.
No flies on you!!
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