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Old 05-19-2008, 09:16 AM
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:29 AM
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Not really. First, North Korea did the same to the right. Second, this was in the midst of a massive invasion from the North. Sad, yes. Tragic, yes. But are all South Koreans infinitely better off that the South managed to preserve its freedom, yes yes yes.
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:35 AM
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Not really. First, North Korea did the same to the right. Second, this was in the midst of a massive invasion from the North. Sad, yes. Tragic, yes. But are all South Koreans infinitely better off that the South managed to preserve its freedom, yes yes yes.
Except for the ones that were slaughtered.....

All in the name of "freedom".....
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:42 AM
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Except for the ones that were slaughtered.....

All in the name of "freedom".....
Put the situation into context. The North launched a massive surprise unprovoked invasion, you had a complete breakdown of central control in South Korea, the entire country was rapidly pushed back into a small enclave about 20 miles by 40 miles centered on Pusan.

Horrible things happen during this time. The North was butchering people they didn't like left and right. The Southern government knew that if they were captured they were going to be killed, so they did what they thought would help them survive by denying forces to the North.

Not necessarily saying they were justified, but it is understandable. Anyone who doesn't, has no understanding of what was happening at the time.

Again, the South Korean military government was a vicious group of thugs, but when compared to the Northern government, they still come off looking better.

Is it gut wrenching sad that this is the case. Yes, much like how it might be a bit better off for the Burmese people NOT to give aid so their junta can steal it, sometimes the two choices given to people both are evil.

I mean if you going to get so upset, how about the US bombing Germany and Japan during WWII. The Japanese killed what, 4 US civilians in the US. We killed 100's of thousands if not millions.
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:58 AM
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So then the killing of the civilians at Hue was ok, too? And we can't complain about all those fucking boatpeople then either. Its war and that's that.

So yes I totally agree with you
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:05 AM
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So then the killing of the civilians at Hue was ok, too? And we can't complain about all those fucking boatpeople then either. Its war and that's that.

So yes I totally agree with you
Well, to be honest I have always had an issue with "civilized war". For me it just makes it more likely that there WILL be war if people believe that they won't pay the price for it.

But at the same time, what happened in Korea was not a normal war, it was the nastiest of civil wars, with far far too much steroids in the form of superpower support possible making even that 100 times worse. My point simply is that you have to put the actions into context. The South Koreas were fighting for their survival, it such situations normal codes of conduct break down. Was what the South did right? Don't know. All I am saying is that this is one of those situations where something that SHOULD be black and white becomes a lot more gray: like Nagasaki and Hiroshima, and the fire bombings of Tokyo and Dresden.
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:21 AM
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Well, to be honest I have always had an issue with "civilized war". For me it just makes it more likely that there WILL be war if people believe that they won't pay the price for it.

But at the same time, what happened in Korea was not a normal war, it was the nastiest of civil wars, with far far too much steroids in the form of superpower support possible making even that 100 times worse. My point simply is that you have to put the actions into context. The South Koreas were fighting for their survival, it such situations normal codes of conduct break down. Was what the South did right? Don't know. All I am saying is that this is one of those situations where something that SHOULD be black and white becomes a lot more gray: like Nagasaki and Hiroshima, and the fire bombings of Tokyo and Dresden.
In support of your theory I'll point to Germany after WW1--not destroyed--and Germany after WW2--destroyed. Which country wanted another war? Sherman knew
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Old 05-19-2008, 12:18 PM
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I'm waiting for dubya to come out with his usual bluster and go invade SK for the mass killings. He used that as one of his excuses to invade Iraq. Or maybe he can add them to the axis of evil bunch.

But nooooooo, we hear nothing from the boyz in the WH. Just move along folks, this doesn't concern us. Hypocrites. The MSM too.
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This is a silly joke compared to the Jewish Holocaust.
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I'm waiting for dubya to come out with his usual bluster and go invade SK for the mass killings. He used that as one of his excuses to invade Iraq. Or maybe he can add them to the axis of evil bunch.

But nooooooo, we hear nothing from the boyz in the WH. Just move along folks, this doesn't concern us. Hypocrites. The MSM too.
South Korea is a thriving Democracy because Americans/So. Koreans defeated the Communists.
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