The Non Jewish Historical Thread

[TakuanSoho]

Okay Nobin, here is a thread dedicated to historical topics, but nothing Jewish (except in a purely historical sense).

Anyone can suggest a theme, I don't care, I will debate any and all people. Let's have some fun. Any suggestions on what to talk about?

[Noibn]

Originally Posted by TakuanSoho

Okay Nobin, here is a thread dedicated to historical topics, but nothing Jewish (except in a purely historical sense).

Anyone can suggest a theme, I don't care, I will debate any and all people. Let's have some fun. Any suggestions on what to talk about?

That's right, tak, single ME out. Ya dog!

My thing of late has been (sort of) a study of 1947-1954 changes in young white people's musical tastes; when they started listening to R&B ("race") music instead of the utter crap that was on white oriented radio at the time. Aside from the kids being well prepped for the advent of Presley, the cultural and social ramifications were enormous.

Or we could talk about Germany 1933-39 and its government's internal policies towards its Jewish population.

Or we could talk about why so many women find Mel Brooks and Monty Python un-funny. DNA make up or just dumb girlz?

[TakuanSoho]

Originally Posted by Noibn

That's right, tak, single ME out. Ya dog!

My thing of late has been (sort of) a study of 1947-1954 changes in young white people's musical tastes; when they started listening to R&B ("race") music instead of the utter crap that was on white oriented radio at the time. Aside from the kids being well prepped for the advent of Presley, the cultural and social ramifications were enormous.

Or we could talk about Germany 1933-39 and its government's internal policies towards its Jewish population.

Or we could talk about why so many women find Mel Brooks and Monty Python un-funny. DNA make up or just dumb girlz?

Humm, music is not my fortie, you would need radio for that.

Could do the German question, but we should probably avoid that for fear of the ranters.

As for the last. Someone once said that the difference between British and American humor is American humor is more "Isn't it funny that", whereas British humor is more "Wouldn't it be funny if"

And yes, I am a double dirty dog!

[patriot2342001]

Anti-Semitism!!! Anti-Semitism!!!!
How dare you exclude Jews!!!

I'm reading a great book on the Murder of President McKinley, btw. Really interesting, gets deep into the Progressive reform movement and how the assassination helped mke the Progressive movement move forward

[Bonzo'sCostar]

Originally Posted by TakuanSoho

Okay Nobin, here is a thread dedicated to historical topics, but nothing Jewish (except in a purely historical sense).

Anyone can suggest a theme, I don't care, I will debate any and all people. Let's have some fun. Any suggestions on what to talk about?

Hitler's one correct military move was his "no retreat" order at Stalingrad. The US was more than a little responsible for pushing Japan into WWII. It is not outrageous that white Europeans stole Indian land, but the method could hardly have been more dishonorable. The US could have erased Vietnam, but could never have "won."

How 'bout you? You got any ideas?

[patriot2342001]

Why was sacrificing he 6th army a good move???

[Noibn]

Originally Posted by Bonzo'sCostar

Hitler's one correct military move was his "no retreat" order at Stalingrad. The US was more than a little responsible for pushing Japan into WWII. It is not outrageous that white Europeans stole Indian land, but the method could hardly have been more dishonorable. The US could have erased Vietnam, but could never have "won."

How 'bout you? You got any ideas?

Yes, losing 300,000 troops to prove lord-knows-what was a brilliant move!

True dat re Vietnam.

[TakuanSoho]

Originally Posted by patriot2342001

Anti-Semitism!!! Anti-Semitism!!!!
How dare you exclude Jews!!!

I'm reading a great book on the Murder of President McKinley, btw. Really interesting, gets deep into the Progressive reform movement and how the assassination helped mke the Progressive movement move forward

It is not for hatred I exclude Jews, but rather to keep from having to respond to idiotic posts like that one :-)

Anyway, lucky that TR was the Vice President and that McKinley wasn't extremely popular, otherwise that assassination would have backfired. Treat it more as a fortunate unintended consequence. Sort of like the Protestant Reformation leading to the age of reason :-)

What is the book's title. Not AS up on the period as I probably should be.

[Noibn]

Originally Posted by TakuanSoho

Humm, music is not my fortie, you would need radio for that.

Could do the German question, but we should probably avoid that for fear of the ranters.

As for the last. Someone once said that the difference between British and American humor is American humor is more "Isn't it funny that", whereas British humor is more "Wouldn't it be funny if"

And yes, I am a double dirty dog!

Not what's on radio now. White kids, lots of 'em, north AND south, listening to jungle music in 1952? Radical stuff, man.

I always found the German policy BEFORE the war far more interesting. "Berlin Diary" had a great effect on me at about 12 yrs old.

Long live Basil Fawlty!!

[TakuanSoho]

Originally Posted by Bonzo'sCostar

Hitler's one correct military move was his "no retreat" order at Stalingrad. The US was more than a little responsible for pushing Japan into WWII. It is not outrageous that white Europeans stole Indian land, but the method could hardly have been more dishonorable. The US could have erased Vietnam, but could never have "won."

How 'bout you? You got any ideas?

I would have to agree with Patriot and Nobin that Stalingard was a wrong decision by Hitler, but would like to know why you think otherwise.

And yes, the US did help push Japan into the war, however it would have happened anyways. The Japanese Army was spoiling for a war, and while the US embargoes didn't help, at the same time what the Japanese was doing in China was WRONG WRONG WRONG.

As for ideas. Too many to list. I generally leave topics for others because mine are normally too esoteric.