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Old 03-21-2008, 12:53 PM
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Well put.

It is irrational fear of something new/unknown/different.
And then that fear develops a history of its own. With it's own legends and urban stories.
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Old 03-21-2008, 01:08 PM
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Exactly. A good example are the "statistics" that Canuck27 uses to support his/her "oh aren't the Palestinians the victims!" attitude. What Canuck conveniently doesn't write is that the Palestians outnumber Israelis by a large margin, so consequently, there will be more Palestinian deaths and injuries.

Canuck also fails to mention that Israel is surrounded by Arab nations which have ALL, at one time or another, stated as their goal the destruction of Israel. They are literally surrounded by enemies.

So please spare us the "poor lil' Palestinians" nonsense.
Why not just sign off as Super "Jewish" Patriot, then your position would be understandable?
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Old 03-21-2008, 01:23 PM
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And then that fear develops a history of its own. With it's own legends and urban stories.
Yep.

I suppose it has always been this way, but that is even better reason to work for change....

Our technologies are advancing rapidly, I wish cultural/social advances could be made at the same pace. I fear for future generations......what kind of place are we going to leave them? Right now it's looking like we are going to leave them a cesspool with lots of angry denizons....

We can do better.
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Old 03-21-2008, 01:30 PM
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Israel - Germs, Gas And Nukes Fingers On All The Buttons...

Israeli Spy Rumors Fly on Gusts of Truth with 9/11


Zionist Richard Perle:
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Media coverage of Israel's underground in the US – and the 9/11 connection.

Conservatives Against a War with Iraq by Rep. John J. Duncan

What About the Iraqi Children?

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Top Ten Bogus Justifications for the Iraqi War

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Old 03-21-2008, 02:29 PM
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The war on Iraq: Conceived in Israel

Washington's Zionist hawks to reshape Mid-East for Israel

Zionists "Think Tanks" Push America into War


Return of Zionist Extremist Elliott Abrams

Israel's Proxy War?

Bush is intent on painting allies and enemies in the Middle East as evil

Bush planned Iraq 'regime change' before becoming President

Israel - Germs, Gas And Nukes Fingers On All The Buttons...

Israeli Spy Rumors Fly on Gusts of Truth with 9/11


Zionist Richard Perle:
'Inspections Or Not, We'll Attack Iraq

Media coverage of Israel's underground in the US – and the 9/11 connection.

Conservatives Against a War with Iraq by Rep. John J. Duncan

What About the Iraqi Children?

Going Off to War Supplied With Lies

The Road to Bethany
The Injustice of Israel's Roadblocks

Top Ten Bogus Justifications for the Iraqi War

The Edge of Life Living Under Israel's Brutal Occupation

GET ACTIVE!!!

No War For Israel supporters attend antiwar demonstrations

Bring your "No War For Israel" Banner!
Kinko's Banners >Go

No War For Israel supporters get the word out by every legal means possible.

How To Organize a Demonstration >Go

How To Organize a Protest Rally >Go

Here are some tips:

Try making your own banners and be sure to take a picture where you legally hang them.
Use online dating services with your pics and nowarforisrael.com somewhere on the profile.
Sign guest books online with "Your site is the best thing I have seen since nowarforisrael.com," etc.
Get a local church or McDonald's to put nowarforisrael.com on their signs.
Give nowarforisrael.com teddy bears or send flowers with "nowarforisrael.com" cards to local reporters and let them know that their years of dedication to honest journalism have not been in vain.
Arrange meetings with local officials to discuss nowarforisrael.com issues (you decide whether or not to show up).
Call up a radio talk show host and mention nowarforisrael.com
Where weather conditions permit. Take your snow blower or snow shovel out to the local football field or park and shovel nowarforisrael.com in the snow with the park's permission, send the pic to us.
Put an inflatable raft with a nowarforisrael.com sign in your local lake if it is permitted.
Hand out nowarforisrael.com balloons in your clown suit (optional) at a local event.
Legally, put cardboard cutouts of famous people or inflatable creatures holding nowarforisrael.com signs at intersections, send the pics to us.
Get a bar of soap and write "nowarforisrael.com" with permission on the windows of local businesses.
Make your own stickers and put them in legal places where people will notice.
If you live overseas, or someplace famous, take a picture of your nowarforisrael.com banner near the Eiffel Tower or the White House, send it to us.
Get nowarforisrael.com on a local hockey or basketball billboard during the game.
Get a "nowarforisrael.com" mini-stamper and legally stamp things that grab people's attention.
Put up nowarforisrael.com signs in your neighborhood. Send the pics to us.
Request songs on the radio from the "nowarforisrael.com crew," tape it and send us the audiocassette.
Let us know if you see mailing labels with "nowarforisrael.com" placed above computer monitors in public libraries and net cafes.
Let us know if you see bed sheets with "nowarforisrael.com" spray painted on them hanging in your city, take a pic if possible and send it to us.
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Old 03-22-2008, 07:20 PM
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What did the Jewish ever do to warrant so much anti-semitism?
I'm non-Jewish and I have nothing against them, they have done nothing to harm my family nor I.
We have too much hatred in this world coming from these Jihadist that kill anyone in their path, including fellow Muslims.

Surely you are not stating that all anti-Zionists/Jews are Jihadists? That would make most of Europe Jihadist, as well as much of the rest of the world.
Zionists are hurting you and yours, but you just don't seem to know it. Read about Jews in our government. Go to Google...read, then come back to me. Read about the Jewish Mafia, for example. I can supply lots of reading material but it would be better if you found it yourself.
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Old 03-22-2008, 07:28 PM
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People have an innate fear of those different than themselves. And then they make up lies to hide that ridiculous fear.
The people in power do not have to fear...and they lie only to get votes from easily led people.
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Old 03-22-2008, 08:49 PM
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Scott Ritter...works for the U.N.

this is what Scott Ritter said at end of his article;

Israel at present can have no friends, because Israel does not know how to
be a friend. Driven by xenophobic paranoia and historical grievances, Israel
is embarked on a path that can only lead to death and destruction. This is a
path the United States should not tread. I have always taken the position
that Israel is a friend of the United States, and that friends should always
stand up for one another, even in difficult times. I have also noted that,
to quote a phrase well known in America, friends don't let friends drive
drunk, and that for some time now Israel has been drunk on arrogance and
power. As a friend, I have believed the best course of action for the United
States to take would be that which helped remove the keys from the ignition
of the policy vehicle Israel is steering toward the edge of the abyss. Now
it seems our old friend is holding a pistol to our head, demanding that we
stop interfering with the vehicle's operation and preventing us from getting
out of the car. This is not the action of a friend, and it can no longer be
tolerated.

He then calls for a reevaluation of the US policy of aid to Israel and asks
that it should be "linked to Israeli behavior modification" stating that,
"like a child too long spoiled by an inattentive parent, Israel has grown
accustomed to American largess
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Old 03-22-2008, 09:43 PM
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Why has the US not simply recognized another state in historic Palestine? How would having another stable trading partner in our global economy be any worse than the current situation?

Simple, de facto, recognition would be less expensive as a solution, than any of our previous policy actions in the Middle East.

This issue should have been resolved last millennium. Why are we still wasting taxpayer money when we could be lowering our tax burden and improving our standard of living with more stable markets in our global economy.

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Old 03-22-2008, 10:00 PM
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USA has to do what Israel wants.
Israel wants all Palestine without
the Palestinians.
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