The Holocaust

wibblyesq · #**1631** (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

The military sitution is more then enough.

Military History: German trucks & TO&E

about 50K in 1941

All those men in All those nations and all they had was 50K trucks...

For example, in February of 1942, only eight military supply trains per day ran from Brest to Minsk to Smolensk. Between January and February of 1942, only 19 military supply trains per day could be dispatched from Germany/Poland to serve the needs of the entire German Army on the eastern front. During January of 1942, HGrN needed 30 trainloads of supply a day just to maintain minimum capabilities. Due to the cold, barely 10 trains a day could be dispatched. The rail system nearly broke down fully

In 1939, 84 trains moved eastwards every day - by June of 1941, eight months after the start of the "Otto" program, 220 trains moved eastwards every day. Many of the DR trains serving the needs of the WH during this period were cleverly disguised as normal civilian trains. After all, the goal was to move 141 German divisions to the Soviet border without detection. During the fist five months of 1941, nearly 34.000 trainloads of supplies and troops were unloaded in the east.

What the hell ever...

The germans made quite a few errors, and got totally owned in the Russian winter. But they had a gigantic rail system until they arrived in the russian wide gage lines. No problems at all in western europe.

As for your bullshit 50K figure:

Do you have any hard figures on German truck production in WWII? As far as I can ascertain it appears to be about 50K in 1941; 68K in 1943 and 70K in 1944.

Oh, and that doesn't include halftracks or cars????

188K thousand trucks? A bit different than 50K isn't it, you dissembling little shit.

noneof yourbusiness · #**1632** (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 09:05 AM

You dont unbunderstand how much shit is Neeed for this stuff These trains going were filled with supplies and left filled with POEw and wrecked machnes for repair. A straight leg infantrydivison needs 300 tons day not in combat. You want a fuckign list of how many of those were in russia alone. Mechanized untis need much more.

NO mater where the train lines eneded they dont go everywhere shit still needs to be trucked from those points.

You all still go off the comtple bullshit of these people in large groups jsut waiting to be picked up. Its nonesnece.

The tuck nmumbners are US army numbers so call them liars but There are corrubareted in many other places.

So you tell me mr ewxpert where there are many.

Opel "Blitz" (Kfz.305, 4x2)

Oldtimer gallery. Trucks. Opel.

The MacMillan Company - 1971 "Mechanised Warfare in Color -- Military Transport of World War II"
Images and Text
Frame 57, Frame 58, Frame 129, P.131-133, P.156

noneof yourbusiness · #**1633** (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 09:12 AM

German Order of Battle
22 June 1941
Armee Norwegen
Höheres Kommando z.b.V XXXVI
Gebirgskorps Norwegen

noneof yourbusiness · #**1634** (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 09:19 AM

The ful list is to large to post Thats over 3 millionmen

You cant find anywhere ever written that calimed ti was fully spullied ever. It wasnt there was no room nor time for the bulshit you diots claim.

noneof yourbusiness · #**1635** (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 09:31 AM

Without a doubt, the German railway transportation system played a far more strategic role on the eastern front than it did in any other German theater of war. With the exception of the Baltic States (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania) and areas in close proximity to larger Soviet urban or industrial/production centers, the rail and ground transportation network of the Soviet Union was in a more primitive state of existence when compared to western Europe or the United States.

in the US stil has the worst.

June 1941 was the intial invasion month. They wernt even at Smolensk. Igoring the detials of the fghting and that fact the germans had to wade through millions of troops and fight its way to moscow. There no time for anyhting but getting to the first objective. There was no perancy in any postion and they were constianly mooving.

YOur claiming the germans annialated hundreds of sovit Divsions with one hand tied behind there back. Its ridicululous

oceanbreeze · #**1636** (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

Without a doubt, the German railway transportation system played a far more strategic role on the eastern front than it did in any other German theater of war. With the exception of the Baltic States (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania) and areas in close proximity to larger Soviet urban or industrial/production centers, the rail and ground transportation network of the Soviet Union was in a more primitive state of existence when compared to western Europe or the United States.

in the US stil has the worst.

June 1941 was the intial invasion month. They wernt even at Smolensk. Igoring the detials of the fghting and that fact the germans had to wade through millions of troops and fight its way to moscow. There no time for anyhting but getting to the first objective. There was no perancy in any postion and they were constianly mooving.

YOur claiming the germans annialated hundreds of sovit Divsions with one hand tied behind there back. Its ridicululous

It's ridiculous that NOLA didn't use trains to get their citizen out, too.

noneof yourbusiness · #**1637** (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 12:20 PM

TYour far to stupid an uneducated to having anything of use to say on these detailed matters.

oceanbreeze · #**1638** (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

TYour far to stupid an uneducated to having anything of use to say on these detailed matters.

Pffffft.....

noneof yourbusiness · #**1639** (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 12:32 PM

Sixth Army was only a few dozen kilometers from Stalingrad, and Fourth Panzer Army, now to their south, turned northwards to help take the city. To the south, Army Group A was pushing far into the Caucasus, but their advance slowed as supply lines grew overextended. The two German army groups were not positioned to support one another due to the great distances involved

oceanbreeze · #**1640** (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

Sixth Army was only a few dozen kilometers from Stalingrad, and Fourth Panzer Army, now to their south, turned northwards to help take the city. To the south, Army Group A was pushing far into the Caucasus, but their advance slowed as supply lines grew overextended. The two German army groups were not positioned to support one another due to the great distances involved

Good Lord, you're in denial.