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Old 03-29-2008, 02:59 PM
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When are the Warren records supposed to be open to the public any way's?

Jackie is dead, John Jr. is dead, so what is the big deal?

Same thing goes for the sealed records on Martin Luther King jr. why the fuck did they seal them up to 2085 or what ever year it is?
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The Political Game: TDIH: The Warren Commission

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Despite the 1992 JFK Records Act, some materials remain restricted and will not see the light of day until 2017
But then I ask why the fuck wait another 9 years, what are they hiding?
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me rude????? we a bit cranky today?
maybe I am but I see that you are now adding to the converstation.
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ok I will answer my own question:

The Political Game: TDIH: The Warren Commission



But then I ask why the fuck wait another 9 years, what are they hiding?
Good question, but I think we will have to wait to find out unless someone is able to get the records released.
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Hello "Canuck", I read your Post: and like "rob" I find them facinating and filled with intregue & question: You obviously have loads of information regarding all of this that most of us would never have, and I have no way of seperating facts & fiction regarding any of this. Like "rob" says, its now nearly 50 years ago, and questions still remain; and perhaps we will never know with any reasonable certainty what or why this actually happened.

I guess my question with all of this would be if this most convoluted & subversive incident is still not resolved, how can we ever expect our government to survive and function in an accuntable manner in today's ever increasing chaotic world? I hope things are good there in the Great White North Land. ...pjwky
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9/11, Liberty Boat,J.F. Kennedy ,War in Iraq , and others
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Israeli Prime Minister, Zionist terrorist
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Chapter 2: The Dancing Israelis

Chapter 3: Zionism and World War I

Chapter 4: Zionism and World War II

Chapter 5: Great Britain's Turn to be Betrayed

Chapter 6: America Becomes The Zionists' Main Beast of Burden

Chapter 7: Zionist Power Structure in America

Chapter 8: The Butcher Sharon

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Chapter 11: Who Was Really Flying Those Planes?

Chapter 12: Who Provided Protective Cover for the 9-11 Operation?

Chapter 13: The Curious Collapse of the Twin Towers and WTC # 7

Chapter 14: The Miracle of Passover

Chapter 15: Framing Bin Laden

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Chapter 17: The FBI Agents Who Tried to Warn Us

Chapter 18: Foxman's Famous Flunkies

Chapter 19: The Anthrax Letters: Yet Another Anti-Arab Frame-up

Chapter 20: Follow the Phony Trail: Deductive Logic Reveals True Culprits

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Mossad Caught Faking al-Qaeda
9-11 a Mossad-CIA "False Flag Operation
Colonel Donn de Grand-Pre Interview
Fake Terror--the Road to Dictatorship
Zionism vs Jews
Israel's False Flag Attack on the USS Liberty
The Zionist Connection to 9-11
Zionist-Israeli Roots of Hamas exposed
Marines in Beirut Not Warned by Mossad
Mossad Local Assistants in West
Turning over Stones Finds Israeli Mossad


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No honest JFK assassination researcher can claim to be fully versed in the dynamics of conspiracy until he or she has read these volumes, all of which make it very clear that JFK and Israeli Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion were at serious loggerheads, to the point that Ben-Gurion believed that JFK's policy was a threat to Israel's very survival--and said so.

Upon JFK's assassination, American policy toward the Middle East did an amazing 180 degree turn-about--the most immediate result of the American president's murder.

This is a cold, hard, indisputable fact not subject to debate. The evidence is all too clear.

In Final Judgment I pointed out, citing Hersh, that the Israeli press and the world press "told the world that Ben-Gurion's sudden resignation was a result of his dissatisfaction with domestic political scandals and turmoil that were rocking Israel."

However, Hersh went on to say, quite significantly, that there was "no way for the Israeli public" to know that there was "yet another factor" behind the resignation: specifically, in Hersh's words, Ben-Gurion's "increasingly bitter impasse with Kennedy over a nuclear-armed Israel."

The final showdown with JFK over the nuclear bomb was clearly, the "primary reason" behind Ben-Gurion's resignation.
JFK was at serious odds with Prime Minister Diefenbaker as well, Canuck - and for exactly the opposite reasons... Diefenbaker was refusing to take the nuclear weapons that the US was trying to shove off on Canada. And look at Kennedy's nuclear policy with NATO - he offered to provide the Europeans with nuclear weapons as part of his proposed Multi-Lateral Force. Given that Kennedy was so free with nuclear weapons where it came to his allies, why would it have been so difficult for Israel to believe he would have eventually come around to their point of view?

I don't buy the whole theory that Ben Gurion resigned because of Kennedy - he was a volatile personality and his behavior was entirely consistent with his history. He resigned as Prime Minister in 1953 only to come back again in 1955 - just like he returned to politics in 1965 after resigning in 1963. I think his reasons both times was due entirely to domestic politics, pure and simple - there's nothing to indicate that anything else outside of that factored into his decision at either time.

I don't know a whole lot about all of the minutae of Permindex connection and all of the rest (wasn't Garrison's case against Shaw generally accepted to have been a farce?), but I think where it comes to the strategic mindset of Kennedy, Ben Gurion, and Eshkol, your post seems way off the mark.
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I think its faily obvous somebody else was invovled. Theres plenty of evidence for that.
Perhaps... but in all of the "evidence of a conspiracy" that has been dredged up over the years, I've never seen anyone cite these two pictures.
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ok I will answer my own question:

The Political Game: TDIH: The Warren Commission



But then I ask why the fuck wait another 9 years, what are they hiding?
I think LBJ was confronted with the situation of the President being assassinated by someone who had spent time in the Soviet Union (and who himself was conveniently dead) and decided that finding out exactly what happened wasn't worth the risk of starting World War III, so he put the fix in on the Warren Commission. He knew Kennedy was planning to assassinate Castro, and probably figured that backfired on him in some way.... if he probed into it and found that the KGB was behind it, what do you do then?? Better to make sure the Commission came up with a canned answer and be done with it - and let history decide if he was right or wrong in 50 years or so.
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Perhaps... but in all of the "evidence of a conspiracy" that has been dredged up over the years, I've never seen anyone cite these two pictures.
I have never seen them either, yes. Now the argument comes from as I see it. What the mean.
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