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Old 03-26-2008, 12:32 PM
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Grant without Lafayette on his side...would be nothing.
Well, you are consistent. So far, you have shown profound ignorance on every subject upon which you have bleated.

Lafayette?
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Greatest general ever? I would have to go with Hannibal. One could make a good argument for Alexander or Caesar. Napoleon certainly has merit.

For greatest American general, I think I would go with Grant.
I think I agree with Hannibal.

As far as Grant, I don't think he was even the best during the Civil War. Maybe not even the best northern commander. He had numbers on his side and won by merely throwing men at the enemy.

Hard to tell about American generals because the role of the general has changed so much.
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I say hannibal but some would say scipio because of his great defeat of hannibal at zama. But the victory was only won because hannibal was betrayed. Besides scipio mearly reorganized the roman army to the model of hannibal. And no other general has ever beaten as great a force as hannibal did in italy using his head(strategy).
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Old 03-28-2008, 04:55 AM
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Gebhard Leberecht von Blücher record of consitant battles is well documented. Wikipedia is not a source but in the Article on him. The sources cited ARE. They unquestioningly show what a fucking fat retard you are.


Crepon, Tom (1999). Gebhard Leberecht von Blücher: sein Leben, seine Kämpfe. Rostock: Hinsdorff. ISBN 3-356-00833-1.
von Ense, K. A. Varnhagen (1826). Leben des Fürsten Blücher von Wahlstadt. Berlin: G. Reimer.
Henderson, Ernest F. (1994). Blücher and the uprising of Prussia against Napoleon, 1806-1815. Aylesford: R.J. Leach. ISBN 1-873050-14-3.
Parkinson, Roger (1975). The Hussar general: the life of Blücher, man of Waterloo. London: P. Davies. ISBN 0-432116-00-1.
(1996) The life and campaigns of Field-Marshal Prince Blücher of Wahlstatt. London: Constable. ISBN 0-09-476640-1.

Now if you cnaa go to a REAL school and find a REAL teacher...may your stupid fucking hick ass can get those translated if need be.
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Old 03-28-2008, 04:59 AM
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OJ YEAH


Heres another tid Bit you pie eating inbred The wikie article is from Encyclepeida Briticnica. So tell me thats wrong too. Fuckwad.

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Crepon, Tom (1999). Gebhard Leberecht von Blücher: sein Leben, seine Kämpfe. Rostock: Hinsdorff. ISBN 3-356-00833-1.
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I would have to say Lee, because even though he was out gunned stymied the Union guys for several years.


That is true. Unfortunately, because he was such a good general, the Civil War lasted, IMO, at least 2 years longer than it should have...with a large number of the casualties being in those final 2 years. How many people wouldn't have died, wouldn't have suffered if he had not prolonged the inevitible?
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Doesn;t it depend on the period or war?

Lee and Napoleon. Grant, too. You can put MacArthur in for WWII but he became a disgrace in Korea. Then there's Alexander, Julius Caesar, Rommel, and Giap.

Butler was a great patriot and warrior but hard to add him with the great strategists.
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Robert E. Lee is greatly over-rated. Partly, this is because the opposing generals were mostly incompetent. Lee was very good at "x's and O's," but he was not very good at the more mundane essentials like organization and logistics. He was good at flying by the seat of his pants, but his failures on big offensives (Gettysburg and ... damn, forgot the name ... the one for Maryland copperheads) showed his flaws.

I say Grant, OTOH, is under-rated. Yeah, he had advantages in men and material, but he made good use of them. He was good at organization (or at least delegated to those who were) and at persistence. He also kept the objective in mind.
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