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Old 02-28-2007, 03:56 PM
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Another case in the problems with health care access:

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Maryland boy, 12, dies after bacteria from tooth spread to his brain
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Old 02-28-2007, 04:00 PM
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Obama in 08

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Old 03-02-2007, 10:13 AM
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First let me say that I do have great healthcare benefits. Somebody show me where the constitution garuntees healthcare to everyone? I know that some companines are not providing healthcare benefits these days. I also know that people should be responsible for their families care. Does the thought of unviersal healthcare bother only me?
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Old 03-02-2007, 05:31 PM
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It figures. Uninsured children have higher death rates, according to a recent study by a non-partisan advocacy organization.

By Richard Wolf, USA TODAY

WASHINGTON — Hospitalized children who lack health insurance are twice as likely to die from their injuries as those with insurance, a new study reports.

Uninsured children also are less likely to get expensive treatment or rehabilitation and are discharged earlier, says the study by the health care advocacy group Families USA.


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J. Mick Tilford, associate professor at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, said the data he studied for the Families USA report included 25,000 uninsured children with general injuries and 6,500 with traumatic brain injuries. Compared with insured children, he said, the uninsured had 327 "excess deaths" over two years.

Though the study was contested by "two major hospital associations" (which are interested parties...),

The Families USA findings are consistent with others showing the medical implications of living without health insurance. Studies by the Institute of Medicine, the American College of Physicians-American Society of Internal Medicine and the Commonwealth Fund have shown higher death rates among the uninsured. The Institute of Medicine and the Center for Studying Health System Change found evidence of lesser treatment and fewer surgeries in hospitals, but children were not studied separately.

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Many studies show that the uninsured are less likely to have doctors, get preventive care and seek timely treatment. The American Hospital Association cited those factors in its own report. "Children's health and well-being are compromised needlessly," it said.
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Old 03-02-2007, 06:54 PM
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Another case in the problems with health care access:
I saw this. I'm sorry the boy died. I blame the mother. How many times did she take him for yearly dental cleanings or routine doctors visit? Being uneducated only goes so far. A prior visit to the ER could have stopped this with Levaquin. There are free clinics.

Again, I speak from experience, because of a health problem I had 8 root canals and 3 apecios within 12 months. The pain is unbearable. She let her child suffer, she should be charged with child endangerment.
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Old 03-02-2007, 07:41 PM
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Cat; I would like everyone in the US to be covered by healthcare. But, the problem is some of us pick up the whole tab. I am against Welfare; food, housing, but not healthcare.
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Old 03-02-2007, 07:51 PM
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I am no fan of hospitals and how they treat children, or anyone for that matter, who either have no insurance or are on medicare/medicaid. We've had our own nightmares with that system and our daughter since my insurance no longer carries her.

But, I think there may be a lot of other variables involved here that these studies do not take into consideration. For instance: What is the ratio of parents of children without insurance being charged with neglect and/or abuse compared to those parents whose children had insurance? This is just one of many variables that really have nothing to do with having or not having insurance but are more related to the invironment of the children in question.
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Wronggg..
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Old 03-02-2007, 07:59 PM
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I certainly am not against universal health care. But the implimantation of it will be difficult and cause ripples.

Alot of money moves through the economy through insurance company investments and our system has developed around the fact that we pay for insurance. I'm simply affraid that an attempt to win the hearts of voters will cause a rush that will strain entire industries based on insurance and hit the economy hard.
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Wronggg..
why does everybody think universal healthcare is the answer?
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