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12-01-2006, 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Sam
Yes but when you go into the hospital you will be charged such an inflated price that indirectly you are paying.If you think your insurance company will pick it all up you are misguided.They will pick and choose and you could get stuck with 15 % of a 100,000 bill. Indirectly you will be paying for someone without insurance. I am not advocating socialized medicine but required health insurance for all with premium assistance for those below poverty levels that are working.Premium assistance would cost less than all the federal funding currently given to keep hospitals afloat.
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You are making too much sense...
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12-01-2006, 12:56 AM
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Thank you Sam, for your honesty and explanation, it is appreciated. I am not trying to cause trouble here, I am just trying to understand.
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This is my last post of the night. Contrary to what American media tells us Canadians have state of the art medical care and hospitals. They also have the good sense to negotiate contracts from our pharmaceutical companies.
Good post TB.
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12-01-2006, 01:02 AM
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THORNBIRD:
I cannot imagine why Americans would want to have a health care system like you have in Canada. I have heard that so many Canadians that need hip replacement surgery need to go to Cleveland, Ohio, USA and pay full costs for their surgery. I had hip replacement surgery last May and paid nothing. My private insurance paid for everything (even my TV). I would probably still be waiting for my surgery if I lived in Canada. I'll also bet that you get nowhere if you dare to try to challenge a refusal to pay for a procedure.
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12-01-2006, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by gmeyers1944
THORNBIRD:
I cannot imagine why Americans would want to have a health care system like you have in Canada. I have heard that so many Canadians that need hip replacement surgery need to go to Cleveland, Ohio, USA and pay full costs for their surgery. I had hip replacement surgery last May and paid nothing. My private insurance paid for everything (even my TV). I would probably still be waiting for my surgery if I lived in Canada. I'll also bet that you get nowhere if you dare to try to challenge a refusal to pay for a procedure.
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Okay...back up the turnip truck...maybe re read what I posted earlier, because you weren't paying attention to what I wrote...We don't pay for any procedures here.. .none. I don't know where these people in Canada are from who need hip replacement surgery and go to the States for it...I do not know anyone who has gone to the States for any medical procedures. You go in, see a doctor and within a month you have your surgery. Have you had medical attention in Canada? If not...don't knock it tell you try it. Show me some facts on how bad our health care system is...then maybe I will believe you.
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12-01-2006, 01:43 AM
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Like I said in my other posts, I am not trying to be rude, I am not attacking your healthcare system, I just didn't understand. Please don't attack me like the last poster for asking about something I know little or nothing about....Thank You 
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12-01-2006, 01:47 AM
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Thornbird unless you have very good health insurance then it is very hard to get quality health care in the US.
We do have community hospitals and it is illegal for any hospital to refuse you emergency care but it will affect you credit if you do not pay.
Luckly I have great health insurance through my job at the low price (sarcasm here) of only about $200 a month for me and my family.
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12-01-2006, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Areyouforreal
Thornbird unless you have very good health insurance then it is very hard to get quality health care in the US.
We do have community hospitals and it is illegal for any hospital to refuse you emergency care but it will affect you credit if you do not pay.
Luckly I have great health insurance through my job at the low price (sarcasm here) of only about $200 a month for me and my family.
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Thank you AYFR...this is what I was trying to understand. 
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12-01-2006, 01:57 AM
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Your welcome, I don't know a whole lot about our healthcare but I do know that when I did not have insurance getting care was very difficult. Not to mention to get Medicaid you have to be considered "low income". The problem is that at like 24000 a year you are no longer "low income" That is even if you are a family of four like me.
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12-01-2006, 02:14 AM
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One of the reasons is because we have been brainwashed about socialized medicine. I have known people who were allowed to die because they did not have insurance.
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12-01-2006, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Thornbird
Okay...back up the turnip truck...maybe re read what I posted earlier, because you weren't paying attention to what I wrote...We don't pay for any procedures here...none. I don't know where these people in Canada are from who need hip replacement surgery and go to the States for it...I do not know anyone who has gone to the States for any medical procedures. You go in, see a doctor and within a month you have your surgery. Have you had medical attention in Canada? If not...don't knock it tell you try it. Show me some facts on how bad our health care system is...then maybe I will believe you.
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Honestly, I am sick and tired of people posting here about the Canadian system who know nothing about it. The propoganda deems to permiate Americans about how bad it is north of us, I truly think this comes primarily from our private HC companies who don't want to make anything less than what they are making now.
I have talked to numerous health care professionals (my girlfriend being one) and remember distictly having a long conversation with several Candadians about this very thing while in Toronto. This waiting for procedures, etc does not exist because they find a doctor who can do it and send you there. The procedure gets paid for. WE ARE BEHIND...unless you have lots of money or the right job here in the US then you are in trouble.
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