What does that have to do with healthcare?

What kind of healthcare system do you want, and be specific by describing the changes you want from the current government defined system of healthcare, which after all is the system Republicans wanted because they controlled Congress and the Whitehouse for five years and didn't make a single change.

What atack has Obama made on insurance companies? If Obama is attacking insurance companies, why does Obama's plan, just like the Mass. plan, base everything in health insurance plans from insurance companies?

I'm anxiously awaiting you quoting Obama's attack on insurance companies.

Ditto for Hillary.

Of course, you have been attacking insurance companies for days in this forum, so I think you are projecting your views on Obama because you don't know what you think.

Here is exactly what I'm speaking of.
Obama is saying all Insurance Companies are deceiving and defrauding Seniors.
The same Companies regulated by Politicians like himself.

Obama Attacks Insurance Industry's Private Medicare Plans - Politics News Story - KCCI Des Moines

DES MOINES, Iowa -- Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is turning his focus to health care during his latest trip to Iowa.

The Illinois senator met Friday with about 100 invited senior citizens in Des Moines. He said as president he would end government subsidies to insurance companies that sell private Medicare plans to seniors by using deceptive or illegal means.

He said the subsidies cost as much as $15 billion -- and cutting that would provide $150 billion over a decade to strengthen Medicare and lower prescription drug prices.

Obama said the insurance companies should not be rewarded for "deceiving and defrauding our seniors.''

Any thoughts?

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Well, Obama thinks that proper regulation will ensure that insurance companies serve everyone well.

You seem to be arguing that insurance companies will never work fairly, so presumably you are arguing for the government to take over the health insurance function entirely. That means you must be a Nader supporter.

If you think Insurance Companies are unfair, vote for different regulators.

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Well, Obama is asking for your vote because he's going to force them to be fair to everyone and provide the same quality product to all customers for the same price.

Do you think Kennedy should get great care for a price lower than you pay because he buys his health insurance via a Federal group plan that you can't use to buy your health insurance?

Obama and Kennedy want you and I to be able to buy from the Federal plan if we want, forcing the insurance companies to charge us the same rate they charge Kennedy and other politicians.

Do you disagreewith Kennedy and Obama and think you should be charged more for less? Yesterday I heard a woman from Maine call in to say that last week, before his seizures, Senator Kennedy's office pressured her insurance company to approve her request for cancer treatment, so Kennedy sure is trying to get insurance companies to serve everyone equally, even when for people who didn't vote for him.

mulp,

Well, Obama is asking for your vote because he's going to force them to be fair to everyone and provide the same quality product to all customers for the same price.
Really?
The same guy that thinks there are 57 states doesn't know that each state regulates Insurance operations within that state?
This Hussein kid is still wet behind the ears.

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Most of the health insurance is not regulated by the States, and is actually unregulated as insurance, but instead handled under ERISA.

The obvious option is to offer the Federal health menu to all, which would place health insurance for individuals outside of the State regulation.

Of course, you still haven't made any statement about what you are for. You don't seem to like the existing "system" nor any of the proposals from anyone else.

Are you just simply anti-American healthcare and want Canada or Japan or Taiwan to take over US healthcare?

Texas highly regulates all Insurance at the state level. All Insurance, including Federal programs (Healthcare saving accounts, Medicaid, Medicare etc...)
I do understand the Feds set broad guidelines.

No thanks, I do not want a US President telling states to legislate discrimination or an immoral act to promote some wacko agenda for 200,000 people that live in America.

Of course, you still haven't made any statement about what you are for. You don't seem to like the existing "system" nor any of the proposals from anyone else.
Very true, it's a conflict with my occupation.

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Listen up and get an education on something most americans have never been informed.


Federal Government issues limits on how many Doctors for general practice and all specialty fields to universities which must be obeyed or they lose federal funding!!!!!!!!!!

How does this effect the average citizen?
Answer- Doctors are NOT limited with prices they can charge except when they sign on to specific insurance companies and even then it pertains on certain procedures. There are always NEW procedures not listed specifically within those contracts and can then be subject to a ridiculous price.

Furthermore, remember that capitalism has always provided the BEST PRODUCT/SERVICE at the CHEAPEST PRICE because there is competition! Refusal to allow more doctors have created a MONOPOLY in essence. Also, to compound the problem TORT reform has not been introduced, passed at reasonable expectations.


How many people here would GLADY give up one of their toes for a few million dollars? Simple logic tells us that if people would *stand in line to be the next victim for a huge payoff* then the payoff's are grossly exagerated thus creating higher malpractice insurance!



Politicians wanting national healthcare coverage LOVE high prices, long lines and a disgruntled populace. If people were not upset they have ZERO CHANCE of creating national healthcare! Ergo, find ways to screw it up so we can get what we wanted!


Stupid Should hurt and those supporting national healthcare will recieve that hurt from their stupidity after the government passes it and makes our system worse off than it is now....