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Old 05-21-2008, 04:27 PM
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No it doesn't. The law requires everyone to have health insurance.
True, but there is more to it.

State Set to Use Auto Insurance As a Model

By David A. Fahrenthold
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, April 5, 2006; Page A01

BOSTON, April 4 -- The Massachusetts legislature approved a bill Tuesday that would require all residents to purchase health insurance or face legal penalties, which would make this the first state to tackle the problem of incomplete medical coverage by treating patients the same way it does cars.

Gov. Mitt Romney (R) supports the proposal, which would require all uninsured adults in the state to purchase some kind of insurance policy by July 1, 2007, or face a fine. Their choices would be expanded to include a range of new and inexpensive policies -- ranging from about $250 per month to nearly free -- from private insurers subsidized by the state.


As you can see, MA. has their own Govt. healthcare.

Why do Politicians get VIP medical treatment and all others stand in a line waiting for treatment?
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Old 05-21-2008, 04:31 PM
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State Set to Use Auto Insurance As a Model

By David A. Fahrenthold
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, April 5, 2006; Page A01

BOSTON, April 4 -- The Massachusetts legislature approved a bill Tuesday that would require all residents to purchase health insurance or face legal penalties, which would make this the first state to tackle the problem of incomplete medical coverage by treating patients the same way it does cars.

Gov. Mitt Romney (R) supports the proposal, which would require all uninsured adults in the state to purchase some kind of insurance policy by July 1, 2007, or face a fine. Their choices would be expanded to include a range of new and inexpensive policies -- ranging from about $250 per month to nearly free -- from private insurers subsidized by the state.


As you can see, MA. has their own Govt. healthcare.

Why do Politicians get VIP medical treatment and all others stand in a line waiting for treatment?
The poor get their private insurance subsidized by the Commonwealth. That would happen anyway. As for Politicians getting VIP treatment. How old are you? Since the beginning of time, the leaders. always get VIP treatment.

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Old 05-21-2008, 04:36 PM
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Mass has state controlled Govt healthcare.
Kennedy has health insurance provided by a group plan that is available to Federal Employees, part of the system recommended by McCain and Romney, McCain for the US as a whole, and Romney for the State of Mass in particular.

As John McCain calls for, and as Romney signed into law, individuals are able to buy insurance via group pools setup by a public corporation to ensure that everyone has access to affordable insurance. As McCain is calling for, the State provides subsidies for those without the income to afford the price of health insurance. As McCain calls for, those the insurance companies won't insure because of existing illness or other preexisting conditions, a government run pool offering them insurance as rates that are no higher than a specific higher premium is available. No one is required to buy insurance unless they can't pay their medical bills, but the uninsured do pay a fee that is currently about $135 a year to help cover the insurance of those in the uninsured pool.

So, while it isn't exactly what McCain is calling for as the system for the US, it is close, and it is exactly what Romney signed into law after he called for health reform in Mass, after being faced with the same situation that drives McCain's proposal.

So, if you don't think that Ted Kennedy is getting the right kind of healthcare, then you need to blame Romney for signing it into law, and then fight McCain who is calling for the Mass system for all States.
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Old 05-21-2008, 05:08 PM
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State Set to Use Auto Insurance As a Model

By David A. Fahrenthold
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, April 5, 2006; Page A01

BOSTON, April 4 -- The Massachusetts legislature approved a bill Tuesday that would require all residents to purchase health insurance or face legal penalties, which would make this the first state to tackle the problem of incomplete medical coverage by treating patients the same way it does cars.

Gov. Mitt Romney (R) supports the proposal, which would require all uninsured adults in the state to purchase some kind of insurance policy by July 1, 2007, or face a fine. Their choices would be expanded to include a range of new and inexpensive policies -- ranging from about $250 per month to nearly free -- from private insurers subsidized by the state.


As you can see, MA. has their own Govt. healthcare.

Why do Politicians get VIP medical treatment and all others stand in a line waiting for treatment?
I think the people who run these health insurance plans would be surprised to know they are government run:

The Mass Connector, the Mass public corporation that provides the group plans to all Mass residents without employer insurance, has the Commonwealth Choice plans from:
Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts,
Fallon Community Health Plan,
Harvard Pilgrim Health Care,
Health New England,
Neighborhood Health Plan, and
Tufts Health Plan.

The individual has the option of picking a plan:
- Gold level plans (Low co-payments. No deductible.)
- Silver level plans(Moderate co-payments. Some have no deductible.)
- Bronze (Low premium. Most have deductibles and co-payments.)
- Young Adults Plan (For 18-26 year-olds. Low premium. Most have deductibles, co-payments, limits on benefits. With or without Rx.)

These options are very much like those offered by employers to employees. If you think the above is government run healthcare, then you must think that employer healthcare options is also government run healthcare.

And people do have the option of not buying any health insurance, or buying it from any other insurance company that offers plans in Mass, although the for-profit companies don't seem to find competing in Mass for health insurance business....

But if the system that McCain is running on, and that was designed by Republican Romney isn't to your liking, what are you arguing for instead? Who has a plan that you like, or do you like the current universal healthcare system which is if if you don't have insurance and you are sick and poor, you get health care for free paid for by doctors, hospitals, and government?
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Old 05-21-2008, 05:09 PM
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The poor get their private insurance subsidized by the Commonwealth. That would happen anyway. As for Politicians getting VIP treatment. How old are you? Since the beginning of time, the leaders. always get VIP treatment.
LOL
You ignored this part of my post......Their choices would be expanded to include a range of new and inexpensive policies

What does my age have to do with Democrat Politicians getting VIP medical care, as all other Americans die while waiting in a line to get medical care?
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Kennedy has health insurance provided by a group plan that is available to Federal Employees, part of the system recommended by McCain and Romney, McCain for the US as a whole, and Romney for the State of Mass in particular.

As John McCain calls for, and as Romney signed into law, individuals are able to buy insurance via group pools setup by a public corporation to ensure that everyone has access to affordable insurance. As McCain is calling for, the State provides subsidies for those without the income to afford the price of health insurance. As McCain calls for, those the insurance companies won't insure because of existing illness or other preexisting conditions, a government run pool offering them insurance as rates that are no higher than a specific higher premium is available. No one is required to buy insurance unless they can't pay their medical bills, but the uninsured do pay a fee that is currently about $135 a year to help cover the insurance of those in the uninsured pool.

So, while it isn't exactly what McCain is calling for as the system for the US, it is close, and it is exactly what Romney signed into law after he called for health reform in Mass, after being faced with the same situation that drives McCain's proposal.

So, if you don't think that Ted Kennedy is getting the right kind of healthcare, then you need to blame Romney for signing it into law, and then fight McCain who is calling for the Mass system for all States.
Kennedy has health insurance provided by a group plan that is available to Federal Employees
I have some serious problems with this.

Who in the hell said a Federal employee's life is more important than the lives of all other Americans?

This is why Politicians can not be trusted with managing any type of healthcare.
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Old 05-21-2008, 05:16 PM
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I think the people who run these health insurance plans would be surprised to know they are government run:

The Mass Connector, the Mass public corporation that provides the group plans to all Mass residents without employer insurance, has the Commonwealth Choice plans from:
Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts,
Fallon Community Health Plan,
Harvard Pilgrim Health Care,
Health New England,
Neighborhood Health Plan, and
Tufts Health Plan.

The individual has the option of picking a plan:
- Gold level plans (Low co-payments. No deductible.)
- Silver level plans(Moderate co-payments. Some have no deductible.)
- Bronze (Low premium. Most have deductibles and co-payments.)
- Young Adults Plan (For 18-26 year-olds. Low premium. Most have deductibles, co-payments, limits on benefits. With or without Rx.)

These options are very much like those offered by employers to employees. If you think the above is government run healthcare, then you must think that employer healthcare options is also government run healthcare.

And people do have the option of not buying any health insurance, or buying it from any other insurance company that offers plans in Mass, although the for-profit companies don't seem to find competing in Mass for health insurance business....

But if the system that McCain is running on, and that was designed by Republican Romney isn't to your liking, what are you arguing for instead? Who has a plan that you like, or do you like the current universal healthcare system which is if if you don't have insurance and you are sick and poor, you get health care for free paid for by doctors, hospitals, and government?
In reality, all Insurance companies are controlled by Politicians.
Why do you think Insurance Companies have been demonized by Politicians? LOL
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In reality, all Insurance companies are controlled by Politicians.
Why do you think Insurance Companies have been demonized by Politicians? LOL

Wowsa Troll logic....

Dumbest motherfucker on earth.
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Old 05-21-2008, 05:24 PM
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Kennedy has health insurance provided by a group plan that is available to Federal Employees, part of the system recommended by McCain and Romney, McCain for the US as a whole, and Romney for the State of Mass in particular.

As John McCain calls for, and as Romney signed into law, individuals are able to buy insurance via group pools setup by a public corporation to ensure that everyone has access to affordable insurance. As McCain is calling for, the State provides subsidies for those without the income to afford the price of health insurance. As McCain calls for, those the insurance companies won't insure because of existing illness or other preexisting conditions, a government run pool offering them insurance as rates that are no higher than a specific higher premium is available. No one is required to buy insurance unless they can't pay their medical bills, but the uninsured do pay a fee that is currently about $135 a year to help cover the insurance of those in the uninsured pool.

So, while it isn't exactly what McCain is calling for as the system for the US, it is close, and it is exactly what Romney signed into law after he called for health reform in Mass, after being faced with the same situation that drives McCain's proposal.

So, if you don't think that Ted Kennedy is getting the right kind of healthcare, then you need to blame Romney for signing it into law, and then fight McCain who is calling for the Mass system for all States.
I remember when JFK Jr. crashed his plane into the ocean.
Teddy had a Navy ship looking for it.
This tells me, Politicians think they are better than us commoners and they can not be trusted with anything.
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You sure are stupid Wowsa....

Anybody think differently?
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