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05-07-2008, 11:40 AM
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Why do you believe that?
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Well, who would be likely to take advantage of that option other than the poor?
Those with money wouldn't be willing to take the risk. All surgery comes with risk.
I agree with Wolf. Bad idea.
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05-07-2008, 12:13 PM
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Well, who would be likely to take advantage of that option other than the poor?
Those with money wouldn't be willing to take the risk. All surgery comes with risk.
I agree with Wolf. Bad idea.
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Would you also stop the homeless from selling their blood? After all, that is also not risk free for either the homeless or those receiving that donation, nor is it philosophically different from selling a kidney or other body part.
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05-07-2008, 12:15 PM
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Well, who would be likely to take advantage of that option other than the poor?
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Me
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Originally Posted by Heckler
Those with money wouldn't be willing to take the risk. All surgery comes with risk.
I agree with Wolf. Bad idea.
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Who are you do decide what individuals choose to do with their own bodies?
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05-07-2008, 12:15 PM
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Would you also stop the homeless from selling their blood? After all, that is also not risk free for either the homeless or those receiving that donation, nor is it philosophically different from selling a kidney or other body part.
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Selling their blood will not put them potentially at risk of death through either the operation or future need of the organ.
So not the best comparison.
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05-07-2008, 12:17 PM
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Who are you do decide what individuals choose to do with their own bodies?
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You can do what you want with your body, it is the selling of your body parts that is the issue. If you want to donate your kidney, you are perfectly free to do that.
This is not a libertarian issue, it is a commercial issue. Legalizing the selling of body parts is going to open a whole can of problems.
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05-07-2008, 12:19 PM
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You can do what you want with your body, it is the selling of your body parts that is the issue. If you want to donate your kidney, you are perfectly free to do that.
This is not a libertarian issue, it is a commercial issue. Legalizing the selling of body parts is going to open a whole can of problems.
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If I wish to voluntarily sell a part of my own body and a willing buyer is willing to pay me for it, what business is that of yours?
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05-07-2008, 12:26 PM
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Well, who would be likely to take advantage of that option other than the poor?
Those with money wouldn't be willing to take the risk. All surgery comes with risk.
I agree with Wolf. Bad idea.
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Agreed.
Then the criminal aspect of it would be introduced as people are forced to sign donation waivers.
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05-07-2008, 12:29 PM
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If I wish to voluntarily sell a part of my own body and a willing buyer is willing to pay me for it, what business is that of yours?
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Didn't THEY tell you? All you do and all you are is for the state? You are nothing.
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05-07-2008, 12:29 PM
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If I wish to voluntarily sell a part of my own body and a willing buyer is willing to pay me for it, what business is that of yours?
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Well, for one it would help increase the black market for organs by making it more difficult to monitor and control. This would result in an upswing in crime that affects many people outside of merely you and the buyer.
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05-07-2008, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TakuanSoho
You can do what you want with your body, it is the selling of your body parts that is the issue. If you want to donate your kidney, you are perfectly free to do that.
This is not a libertarian issue, it is a commercial issue. Legalizing the selling of body parts is going to open a whole can of problems.
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Why does the "selling" matter over just giving it away. I don't understand, if the argument is that its dangerous for the poor, why that would matter.
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