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03-31-2008, 07:41 PM
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You go girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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Yep, as soon as the kiddos are sleeping. 
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03-31-2008, 07:42 PM
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You got me on that one, Obee.
Congratulations.
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03-31-2008, 07:49 PM
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Wow. I think Carson's math is better than yours.
2,000 doctors doesn't represent 800,000.
Who are these "researches" and what is the The Indiana survey?
(psst...in college I worked as political "researcher/phone survyer"  )
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You mean this, don't you? 
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03-31-2008, 07:58 PM
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This is very surprising..........
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No actually it's not Joy. I have four cousins that are doctors, a sister that is a radiologist and a son that is a third year Orthopedic surgeon resident. And a daughter thats a pharmacist. They all have supported national health care for years.
Except my son who is anew doctor, but supports it as long as he makes enough to pay back his loans and live well.
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03-31-2008, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by oceanbreeze
"The Indiana survey found that 83 percent of psychiatrists, 69 percent of emergency medicine specialists, 65 percent of pediatricians, 64 percent of internists, 60 percent of family physicians and 55 percent of general surgeons favor a national health insurance plan.
The researchers said they believe the survey was representative of the 800,000 U.S. medical doctors."
Doctors support universal health care: survey | Health | Reuters
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Is this so hard to believe??......supporting the ability to throw budgets out the window and having government write your industry an open ended check.....you bet your sweet ass they support UHC.
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03-31-2008, 08:02 PM
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Is this so hard to believe??......supporting the ability to throw budgets out the window and having government write your industry an open ended check.....you bet your sweet ass they support UHC.
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 I agree with you. 
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03-31-2008, 08:04 PM
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No actually it's not Joy. I have four cousins that are doctors, a sister that is a radiologist and a son that is a third year Orthopedic surgeon resident. And a daughter thats a pharmacist. They all have supported national health care for years.
Except my son who is anew doctor, but supports it as long as he makes enough to pay back his loans and live well.
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I also have many relative that are doctors, none of them want universal health care. Believe it or not, the biggest opponents live in Novato, CA. 
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04-01-2008, 08:13 AM
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BalancedPolitics.org - Free Balanced, Non-Partisan Discussion of Political & Social Issues for Debate (Pros and Cons - Decision Making Politics)
Loss of private practice options and possible reduced pay may dissuade many would-be doctors from pursuing the profession. Government jobs currently have statute-mandated salaries and civil service tests required for getting hired. There isn't a lot of flexibility built in to reward the best performing workers. Imagine how this would limit the options of medical professionals. Doctors who attract scores of patients and do the best work would likely be paid the same as those that perform poorly and drive patients away. The private practice options and flexibility of specialties is one of things that attracts students to the profession. If you take that away, you may discourage would-be students from putting themselves through the torture of medical school and residency.
There are good pros and cons listed under universal health care on this site. Specifically addressing the issue of why this would be a negative for doctors is listed above. Will UHC continue to attract the same well qualified individuals to the health care field?
I think we'll end up attracting more students into law since they'll be eager to sue the hell out of the government when they screw up our health care system.
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04-01-2008, 03:49 PM
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BalancedPolitics.org - Free Balanced, Non-Partisan Discussion of Political & Social Issues for Debate (Pros and Cons - Decision Making Politics)
Loss of private practice options and possible reduced pay may dissuade many would-be doctors from pursuing the profession. Government jobs currently have statute-mandated salaries and civil service tests required for getting hired. There isn't a lot of flexibility built in to reward the best performing workers. Imagine how this would limit the options of medical professionals. Doctors who attract scores of patients and do the best work would likely be paid the same as those that perform poorly and drive patients away. The private practice options and flexibility of specialties is one of things that attracts students to the profession. If you take that away, you may discourage would-be students from putting themselves through the torture of medical school and residency.
There are good pros and cons listed under universal health care on this site. Specifically addressing the issue of why this would be a negative for doctors is listed above. Will UHC continue to attract the same well qualified individuals to the health care field?
I think we'll end up attracting more students into law since they'll be eager to sue the hell out of the government when they screw up our health care system.
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Great link.
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04-01-2008, 04:15 PM
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Great link.
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Yeah, I was pleased to come across it.
I wish there were more pros than cons to UHC.......I really do. We need a solution to the healthcare situation in this country, but the gov't our answer?
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