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Originally Posted by Dom1
It varies from person to person. Again, look at Bob Sanders who has 54 more pounds on his body than what is deemed 'ideal'. His body works just fine. If they can come up with a better definition of an ideal weight then I would take the obesity figures more seriously.
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Bob Sanders is a Pro FB player and totally depends on his body/muscles to make his living.
Dom1...you do know more than most about this because you do coach sports. But, we are talking about exceptions here. I realized this much more keenly when I was in the Army. The standards for weight vs. height are outrageously unrealistic in many ways for the Army BTW. I am basically thin and when in the Army I had gone from under 165 to over 180, this was from muscle mass through working out far more than I had in the previous 3-4 years (trying to finish degrees/working/doing a lot of gigs). Now, with that said the Army makes you work out because you have to pass a PT test every 6 months and are rewarded for that when it comes to promotion time. So, I get out and over the past 13 years that muscle mass turned to fat...much less time and what I have been doing depends on thinking/teaching/playing music again. It is just the past few weeks that I have REALLY started taking this much more seriously, maybe my brother inspired me at Christmas---we are almost identical in body type and he is all the way back down to 165 and been really taking care of himself. Basic s*it---drink water, work out, watch calories going in vs. what is being burned. I am back down into the 170s and trying to get back down to where my brother has been able to get. You don't have to really even see the lbs on the scale, you just have to look in the mirror and see the fat deposits---I am sure Bob Sanders has very little fat on his body.
Now, my point, if a person gains weight in muscle mass they have to maintains that or it will turn to fat (very easily, retired FB players can tell you this). There is starting point (a base line) our body sits at and that is not your body with a great deal of muscle mass.
This is all very important with the older you get. There is guy I always see at the gym who is 58 years old and is in great shape and does the real 'bodybuilding' stuff (looks like Mr. Universe). But, he takes this very seriously and knows if he lets up this will go to fat REALLY fast...always has a clipboard with him and marking everything down, always monitors his workouts. +10 to +40 I can except as muscle mass and you would have to show me that person, but if +100 and the person is not working or playing professional sports then they are overweight and should really lose some weight. +100 is where one can start having diabetic problems and joints start to really where down, other problems like sleep apnea, etc. =100e
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