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Old 10-21-2007, 03:46 PM
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European and Canadian healthcare does leave a lot to be desired as it is. I have an English friend. Tells me the waiting periods and beauracracy is "bullocks" as he puts it.


To be fucking honest. The FDA needs to go. Allow patients and doctors to decide what is best for themselves. Keep the government out of my healthcare. You would see prices drop as the cost to keep up with Federal Beauracrat red tape, and competition drive down costs.

Let alone the fact that its the sole fault of the FDA that pharmacueticals are so damned high.


Anyways, I agree. I dont want state run hospitals, or taxing me to pay for the healthcosts of others who are entitled to such benefits like welfare, Food assistance, housing assistance, medicare, medicade, social security and so on. When I will not be allowed to draw on these benefits when I need them, because in America, social programs are usually excluded from the middle class who pay the higher tax burden, and cant afford much due to a lack of handouts from the government.

So to hell with socialist assholes who wish to take my money in order to make sure lazy assholes who have 9 kids to collect more benefits can get there doctor visits.
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:56 PM
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Those who are able bodied and will not work should not eat that is biblical

Matthew 25: 35 also says . for I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you gave them to me. I was sick and you took care of me , I was in prison and you visited me. This that you do to the least of my brothers you do unto me , Jesus said. ( I'm simplifying , but this is what jesus said )

Careful ladies . Jesus also said that selfish people who did not do these things and worried only about their own selfs would be sent to ever lasting punishment.

You should be careful that that lazy soul as you say with 9 kids is not one of the ones who Jesus said to take care of . The consequences for you if they are, and you condemn them as you do,........ are not pretty.

You have been warned .
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Old 10-21-2007, 04:09 PM
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Lets do some simple math together

Sometime in October the US population passed 300 million we're told .

The census bureau says we live in household containing 2.6 people per household per the 2000 census .

That makes about 115 million households in the US

We spent 1.42 trillion dollars on medical care in this country last year and that includes drugs .

How much would each household be required to chip in per year to reach that 1.42 trillion dollars ?

1.42 trillion divided by 115 million


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I'll surmise you mean the American trillion, and not the British trillion.

So your answer would be close to 1.23 million per household. Which brings into question those numbers.
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My brother has been in a wheel chair since a car accident when he was 8 yrs old . He barely has a bottom to his body as lack of muscle makes it seem like he is just a person from the waste up.

He gets $465 a month social security disability payments. His medical care is mostly covered, but not things like catheters which he has to pay for and needs everyday. He lives in a low income appartment and pays $265 a month and that includes utilitys except phone and tv . He works 4 hours a day , the longest he can because if he stays on his but longer than that he gets big holes in his but that could kill him. With his $465 a month and what he makes cleaning jewelry he makes under a 1000 a month. With his rent and medical supplies the goverment will not pay for he spends about $550 that leaves him about $450 a month to eat on and pay his cab bills back and forth to work . If anybody thinks living on disability is a picknick you should look at people like my brother .

You stupid bastards.
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:23 PM
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My brother has been in a wheel chair since a car accident when he was 8 yrs old . He barely has a bottom to his body as lack of muscle makes it seem like he is just a person from the waste up.

He gets $465 a month social security disability payments. His medical care is mostly covered, but not things like catheters which he has to pay for and needs everyday. He lives in a low income appartment and pays $265 a month and that includes utilitys except phone and tv . He works 4 hours a day , the longest he can because if he stays on his but longer than that he gets big holes in his but that could kill him. With his $465 a month and what he makes cleaning jewelry he makes under a 1000 a month. With his rent and medical supplies the goverment will not pay for he spends about $550 that leaves him about $450 a month to eat on and pay his cab bills back and forth to work . If anybody thinks living on disability is a picknick you should look at people like my brother .

You stupid bastards.

I sympathize with your brothers plight, and suggest that he contact some of the charitable organizations in his community. Some will provide free food, others will cover medical supplies, not covered by medicare.

How do you think a National Health Care Program should help your brother, and others like him.
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I was talking about these stupid women the one that watches tv so much she has it in her name , probably weighs a ton to show for all that tv watching and the one who must be a woman because no man would name themselves ocean breeze like a fruit. These stupid women need to get a real look at life and people who cannot do for themselves. They stuck my kid brother in dummy classes for awhile . He's smart as a tack , nothing wrong with his mind but he was in a wheel chair so they stuck him in dummy classes .iI can tell you that in those dummy classes were people who were not smart enough to wipe their asses without leaving a brown streak. I can also tell you that many of those dummys have had children some of those kids are smart and can't help it there old man or old lady is a dummy and they need a little help . Most of them work some job the welfare lady gives them and get a check but its no party type of life. These two dumb bitches seem to think it is. What goes around comes around and I'd say both these bitches will need something one day and somebody will treat them like dirt I hope when they do.
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Old 10-21-2007, 08:29 PM
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I knew a woman who died of cancer a year or so after her husbands steel plant closed down and she lost her medical insurance .

Had a lump in her stomach and the doctors kept saying well its probably nothing and since you do not have insurance we'll just keep a eye on it.

About a year later her husband got another job with insurance and they finally did surgery and removed a tumor the size of a soft ball , she died of cancer soon after.

Lerch sorry to here about you brother how is he doing now?
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I was talking about these stupid women the one that watches tv so much she has it in her name , probably weighs a ton to show for all that tv watching and the one who must be a woman because no man would name themselves ocean breeze like a fruit. These stupid women need to get a real look at life and people who cannot do for themselves. They stuck my kid brother in dummy classes for awhile . He's smart as a tack , nothing wrong with his mind but he was in a wheel chair so they stuck him in dummy classes .iI can tell you that in those dummy classes were people who were not smart enough to wipe their asses without leaving a brown streak. I can also tell you that many of those dummys have had children some of those kids are smart and can't help it there old man or old lady is a dummy and they need a little help . Most of them work some job the welfare lady gives them and get a check but its no party type of life. These two dumb bitches seem to think it is. What goes around comes around and I'd say both these bitches will need something one day and somebody will treat them like dirt I hope when they do.


Guess you didn't want to answer the question:

"How do you think a National Health Care Program should help your brother, and others like him."

Sooo, I'll try another:


Why are you ranting in the Health Care section, when you're upset with the educational system?
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My brother has been in a wheel chair since a car accident when he was 8 yrs old . He barely has a bottom to his body as lack of muscle makes it seem like he is just a person from the waste up.

He gets $465 a month social security disability payments. His medical care is mostly covered, but not things like catheters which he has to pay for and needs everyday. He lives in a low income appartment and pays $265 a month and that includes utilitys except phone and tv . He works 4 hours a day , the longest he can because if he stays on his but longer than that he gets big holes in his but that could kill him. With his $465 a month and what he makes cleaning jewelry he makes under a 1000 a month. With his rent and medical supplies the goverment will not pay for he spends about $550 that leaves him about $450 a month to eat on and pay his cab bills back and forth to work . If anybody thinks living on disability is a picknick you should look at people like my brother .

You stupid bastards.


Your being overly biased in a complex situation. He deserves whatever benefits he gets, and probably more. There are those who do not deserve them. I do not need to point out the kinds of people who milk the system when, if they where responsable people. They could easily afford to live on there own without my taxes.

And personally, im of the beleif that private charity could do a lot more for him than any Government Social Program if people had more money in there pockets, but I digress from that now. For its off topic.
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Careful ladies . Jesus also said that selfish people who did not do these things and worried only about their own selfs would be sent to ever lasting punishment.

Peach how can there be ever lasting punishment, if you don't believe in Hell?
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