Ummmm, either way dumbass... it's accurate according to Eli... a fact you keep ignoring.

Unlike your opinion you presented as fact... "Typical Liberal"

Just who are you trying to convince, why do you care? This is a non issue, and totally inappropriate, don't you get that? Drop it. Drop it. Drop it.

What's the matter with you? you misinterpret nearly every argument, misrepresent the opposing view consistently, and are oblivious to the fact that everyone knows it.

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Of course I will drop it. Just as soon as you admit that you were wrong.

And I misrepresented nothing. I have been cutting and pasting your own words. Unless you misrepresented yourself, there is no misrepresentation.

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not gonna happen, I wasn't wrong. everything I said was accurate. deal with it.

If you are so confident in your position and the evidence is there from beginning to end, in context, why are you not willing to let people decide for themselves? I am. And am not worried in the least, which is why I want to drop it now. Get it? The fact that you are seizing on this issue and won't let it go despite the facts being available to all shows me (and others) that you are simply going to beat it to death until someone agrees with you.

It ain't gonna be me. Eli said himself on the "Reply to OR and PR" thread, that he did say that he leaned republican for most of his life. So where exactly do you see that I was wrong?

And still you ignore the FACT that you were completely off base by inferring he was a liberal. YOU are the one in the wrong, and won't admit it. D O Y O U U N D E R S T A N D ? It's very simple.

You called him a typical liberal... lie

I said he's been a conservative most of his life. fact.

How tough is that to get your mellon around?

now please, PISS OFF!!!!!!!!!!!

You will never get me to say that I was wrong about this, so run along.

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"Pale, first of all, Eli has been a conservative for most of his 83 years. "

So you maintain that this is an accurate statement? Eli says:


"I am not a conservative either. Why do you people have to put everyone in the conservative/liberal box?"

How do you square the fact that you said he was a conservative with the fact that he said that he wasn't?

And I am confident, that is why I brought it all here upon your suggestion.

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"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

You are indeed the biggest moron I have ever met. Not the dumbest, but the biggest

WHAM BAM DONE OVER YOU LOSE!!! NOW FUCK OFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!

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There is a difference between leaning conservative which is what Eli said and being conservative which is what you said.

Sorry, butr you don't win. You can't win because you were wrong. You said what you said. And we still have the Eli quote stating that he IS NOT conservative.

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"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

As I said before, fine, great, whatever, you win.. You're the man. I bow to your greatness.

The fact remains that you handled this in typical conservative fashion, poorly. The fact is that your original statement was patently false, which you continue to blissfully ignore. You should have asked Eli instead of me about his beliefs, as I said, I only repeated what he said, which was accurate.

ON the one point that I misspoke on, I have already admitted to and apologized for (which you no doubt missed, what with your impeccable research habits). The fact that you are so focused on this instead of real issues, speaks volumes about your character, and frankly, I hope you never let it go. But from here on out, you're talking to air. If you haven't noticed... no one else CARES! What a shame you haven't found anything useful to do with that brain of yours. Ciao, have a nice life...

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I know this is a one on one debate but I have to jump in now because it looks like the end of it. Anyway I read the posts by Eli then this debate. Okham clearly was correct. Eli states he voted conservative most of his life. His statement then went on to make reference to his CURRENT opinion was neither conservative or liberal and he made his decsions based on what was just and right, READ HIS POST directed to PR and OKHAM. He even added a reference that Okham understood him correctly.

No worries about jumping in Sam, the debate was over at the first post. Thanks to PR's complete breach of formal debate decorum. Which is a shame, I was really looking forward to debating the original topic in a structured thread. Oh well, next time I'll know not to enter into a debate with someone who can't separate issues.

As far as this ridiculous Eli thing... I appreciate the corroboration, but where PR is concerned, it'll never make it to the gray matter. All he's gonna see is... I was right, Okham was wrong. Sam's point proves it. LMAO... ***shrugs*** I don't get it either.

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Hey, another one who doesn't let fact get in the way of his opinion.

Okham: "Pale, first of all, Eli has been a conservative for most of his 83 years. "

Eli: "I am not a conservative either. Why do you people have to put everyone in the conservative/liberal box?"

Thanks for your opinion.

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"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma