Bad Mutha dropped the torch for your side, now come give me the same treatment and see if I'm made of sterner stuff or not.

Bring it. Tell me any one stance on any issue you think can be defended and I'll take it on.

Liberalism is a "sin" by it's very naturalistic type of theology....one in which the material that is created is to be worshiped instead of He that "created" the material . It is today's evil of all evils as was Nazi Fascism in the last century. It is proven to have corrupted the moral fiber of this nation, as proven in our examples of theater and literature, both private and public are nothing but immoral demonstrations in the complete saturation presented in such by obscenities and impurities of any moral fabric. Free thought begets free morals, or immorality. All restraint is tossed away and free thinking examples are common place in the public arena. "WHOEVER THINKS WHAT THEY PLEASE, ACTS AS THEY PLEASE". {as quoted by Dr. Salvany). Liberalism allowed openly in the intellectual order is nothing but a "license" in the breeching of "moral order". Disorder in the intellect begets disorder in the heart, or vise versa. Thus does LIBERALISM corrupt and propagate immorality, and vise versa, immorality propagates liberalism. Criminals and perverts LOVE the liberal ideology, as directly demonstrated in even the courts of this society. It propagates "general ignorance" in religious doctrine and espouses the ideologies that religion is not a system of moral order but a "private" matter that is left open to "private" interpretation......a lie very easily exposed as such.

Now prove that Crime has not gone up 300% from the time liberalism engulfed our "Republic" and has overtaken our court system that now measures crime in pragmatic examples of perception instead of having the same and "equal" punishment handed out to all, regardless of social position or wealth. Prove that the Divorce rate has not more than doubled in the past several decades, all thanks to the ideology of free and open sexual relations with anyone of any gender of any age. Prove that one parent families have not become the "norm" in today's society. Prove that our very "liberal" system of jurisprudence does not often punish the victim and reward the criminal, all under the guise of pragmatic justice.

Is this enough or do you want to address some other concerns that I personally have with the parroted communist example of liberalism? And I have not even addressed a corrupt legal system that condones the mass murder of innocent "unborn" children, much more an example of "PURE EVIL" than even Hitler demonstrated in the death camps.

That's way too easy. Check this out:

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Violent crime took a serious drop all throughout the Clinton Administration.


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That's also not really true, given the current incarceration rate, I'd say that punishment is handed out both unevenly and frequently.


Prove to me that this is a bad thing. Why were people being trapped in unhappy marriages living a somehow morally superior life to those who seek to seperate?

You yourself have shown me the bible verse that says Divorce is okay in certain circumstances, and a lack of mutual satisfaction seems to be acceptable in the verse you gave.


Divorced famillies make up half the population. Of those, not all, or even most of them are strictly "single-Parent" both parents participate in the life of the child to as equal a degree as they can. How would it be the norm when its not the majority state?


Prove to me that this is what's happening. 1 million people are incarcerated in this country, one of the highest prison populations in the world, and easilly the highest in the industrialized world. Where does this illusion that liberals have somehow made the country soft on crime even come from?

This is a great start. I'd like it best if you picked either Crime or Divorce as your issue since those seem to be the two you're after here, but if we have to do both at once, so be it.

Bumping this, because Bluedog was off to a good start...

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I can't believe no one has ANYTHING they want to fight about...isn't that what this forum is for? I'm sure all my responses to Bluedog were all grossly unfounded and totally wrong, but it would be nice if someone would take the time to show me how....

That liberal ideology died the day when "liberals" decided to use the government to impose their beliefs on the general population (usually called liberalism).

What day was that?

Totally wrong?

Are you suggesting that the argument can be defined in terms of black and white?

If so, why would anyone want to waste their time in debate with an agent who at best is a variant of gray?

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