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Old 04-15-2008, 08:53 PM
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OH BD, you who does not have the truth in you, I am still waiting for you to answer this question.

I am waiting Bluedog?

What is your problem can't you answer a simple question BD?
I have been out of town all day long, not what is this "bull" about printing errors?

Are you actually trying to declare a "typo" with a deliberate attempt to change the meaning of the scriptures? As I said, "you'r funny". In the entire cannon process the percentage of transcribed errors are .5% form the originals copies they were transfered from. In comparison to other historical writings of antiquity that range in the neighborhood of 8%, that in itself is quite miraculous. When a scribe is hand printing transfers 12 to 15 hrs a day , by candle light, there are surely to be a few typos, but this fact of human fallibility does not compare with the many false manuscripts that are floating around claiming to be of divine nature that were rejected by the cannon process. Again, I can see no point in the fact that you are trying to present a "very few" typo's as "CORRUPTION".

This is indeed a very long way from deliberate corruption, which God has not allowed, as we have lost "NO" truth from the intended message presented with a word misplaced by human error, as Indeed "ALL" errors have been pointed out by the "CANNON PROCESS". This is clearly evidenced, by the fact that even "YOU" know they are errors. There indeed would be a problem if we did not know them as such. DA! You are merely spinning your wheels because you were caught in an outright lie again, as you said "NO WHERE IN THE SCRIPTURES IS THE HOLY SPIRIT PRESENTED AS A SEPARATE ENTITY FROM GOD, and I presented very clear and transparent scriptures that directly contradicted your lies. Which by the way, you have never attempted to answer, AS USUAL. You go off on some "ACCUSATORY" TANGENT RANT. Again, please explain what 1Tim.5:7 DECLARES, if it does not declare in fact there are three separate divine parts of ONE GOD, and these 3 that bear record, are the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost, which are "ONE". BD
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:10 PM
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What does that have to do with anything bluedog? Man can and does change the bible.

Typos and intentionally.

Heres a example.

1 Corinthians 6:9 King James Version.

1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Cr 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1Cr 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God .

Compare the above King James version to the Message Bible below.


The Message Bible 1 Corinthians 6:9 Unjust people who don't care about God will not be joining in his kingdom. Those who use and abuse each other, use and abuse sex, use and abuse the earth and everything in it don't qualify as citizens in God's kingdom. A number of you know from experience what I'm talking about, for not so long ago you were on that list. Since then, you've been cleaned up and given a fresh start...."




Another comparison of the two bibles.

King James version.

1 Corinthians 6:18-20 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. 19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Compare to the Message bible below.


The Message: 1 Corinthians 6:18-20 "There's more to sex than mere skin on skin. Sex is as much a spiritual mystery as a physical fact. As written in Scripture, 'The two become one.' Since we want to become spiritually one with the Master, we must not pursue the kind of sex that avoids commitment and intimacy, leaving us more lonely than ever - the kind of sex that can never 'become one.' ....In sexual sin we violate the sacredness of our own bodies, these bodies that were made for God-given and God-modeled love, for 'becoming one' with another."[5]


And the Promise keepers hands out 10,000 to the first comers of this trashy Message Bible all the time at their events. So that bible is well circulated with groups like them giving it away. I have read much of it and its corruption of God's word gets worse and worse as you read it. Its a very PC bible and a piece of trash in my opinion.


My point is BD men have and do change the bible , your being unrealistic when you say they don't.
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:41 PM
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What does that have to do with anything bluedog? Man can and does change the bible.

Typos and intentionally.

Heres a example.

1 Corinthians 6:9 King James Version.

1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Cr 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1Cr 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God .

Compare the above King James version to the Message Bible below.


The Message Bible 1 Corinthians 6:9 Unjust people who don't care about God will not be joining in his kingdom. Those who use and abuse each other, use and abuse sex, use and abuse the earth and everything in it don't qualify as citizens in God's kingdom. A number of you know from experience what I'm talking about, for not so long ago you were on that list. Since then, you've been cleaned up and given a fresh start...."




Another comparison of the two bibles.

King James version.

1 Corinthians 6:18-20 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. 19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Compare to the Message bible below.


The Message: 1 Corinthians 6:18-20 "There's more to sex than mere skin on skin. Sex is as much a spiritual mystery as a physical fact. As written in Scripture, 'The two become one.' Since we want to become spiritually one with the Master, we must not pursue the kind of sex that avoids commitment and intimacy, leaving us more lonely than ever - the kind of sex that can never 'become one.' ....In sexual sin we violate the sacredness of our own bodies, these bodies that were made for God-given and God-modeled love, for 'becoming one' with another."[5]


And the Promise keepers hands out 10,000 to the first comers of this trashy Message Bible all the time at their events. So that bible is well circulated with groups like them giving it away. I have read much of it and its corruption of God's word gets worse and worse as you read it. Its a very PC bible and a piece of trash in my opinion.


My point is BD men have and do change the bible , your being unrealistic when you say they don't.
Your point is that you do not know "......form apple butter". You are presenting a "paraphrased" (not translated, but put to print by what the author "THINKS" the scripts to mean) copy of the Holy Scriptures and try to compare it with a legitimate verbatim translation. What is your point? Clearly the word has not been corrupted or "YOU" would not have presented the obvious "inferior" paraphrased copy, which goes against biblical teachings, in the fact that no prophecy of scripture is for "private" interpretation -- ll Peter 1:20.

As evidenced by the fact that you pointed this out demonstrates that MAN WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL IN ATTEMPTING TO CHANGE THE TRUE WORD OF GOD,

God did not say that man would not attempt to corrupt the word, He promised that He would not be successful. And as evidenced He was not.

Now, enough of this TANGENT, which you cannot prove that God's words has been corrupted. In fact, we have "exactly" the same truth of scriptures that was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls over 200 years years before Christ walked the earth. Proven by the fact that our version of the Old Testament was indeed translated "verbatim" form that same script (The Septuagint), which indeed was even referenced in the writings of New Testament scripts which were placed to script in the 1st century AD by the followers of Christ. What difference does it make if "MAN" comes up with 2000 different versions of the Bible, Gods original words still have not been corrupted, if one simply finds them in "true" translations, because a true translation does not consider personal ideologies but merely interprets the original language as close to verbatim as possible. Now, concerning the false claim by you that the scriptures do not mention, God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit as "separate", you still have failed to answer. And when you do, please present scriptures to back up your retort, not YOUR OPINION.

You will indeed go to any length to call GOD a liar, won't you? You must, to present your false ideology as truth. Here is a true verbatim passage from God's Word -- Ps. 12:6-7, "The words of Jehovah are pure words; As sliver tried in a furnace on the earth, Purified seven times. Thou WILL KEEP THEM O JEHOVAH, thou wilt preserve them form this generation "FOR EVER"." Again, do you except us to believe "YOU", who is obviously a presenter of false doctrine, that God IS NOT CAPABLE OF KEEPING THIS PROMISE, or any others? I for one will not accept your lies, so that you might continue to present your false doctrine. This is indeed how God protects HIS TRUTH, by exposing the liars, that are goats trying to pass for sheep. BD

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Old 04-18-2008, 06:01 PM
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WV peach is a self righteous bitch who claims to be a big Christian but in reality she knows virtually nothing about the Bible. I have her number and no matter how you crunch the number it still equals "ZERO". No wonder she gets trampled in every thread, inbreeding has weakened her mind. I heard from one of her "friends" she is a real bitch. If WV knew which friend told me that she would shit and fall backwards in it.
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religion is a con...

by the dom, if you are still checking this thread, then you still lost. Stupid.

Why don't you challenge on these other issues and we discuss them, but on this thread your ass was handed to you in the first three pages. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHA! loser.
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Old 04-19-2008, 12:15 PM
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Promise keepers reguarly hands out the Message BIBLE to the first 10,000 people at their events.


They hand it out to young kids, to men who don't know a thing about the bible and say here have a free bible.

I quarantee you most of those people don't know the difference between a paraphrase and the real bible bluedog.


It is always surprising to me to find that some families don't even have a bible in their homes, but its true a bigger part of the population than I had imagined does not have a bible in their homes.

So this message bible which is the worst kind of garbage as far as I am concerned is distributed as a bible to now hundreds of thousands. And it is far from being anything close to what the bible actually says.






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Your point is that you do not know "......form apple butter". You are presenting a "paraphrased" (not translated, but put to print by what the author "THINKS" the scripts to mean) copy of the Holy Scriptures and try to compare it with a legitimate verbatim translation. What is your point? Clearly the word has not been corrupted or "YOU" would not have presented the obvious "inferior" paraphrased copy, which goes against biblical teachings, in the fact that no prophecy of scripture is for "private" interpretation -- ll Peter 1:20.

As evidenced by the fact that you pointed this out demonstrates that MAN WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL IN ATTEMPTING TO CHANGE THE TRUE WORD OF GOD,

God did not say that man would not attempt to corrupt the word, He promised that He would not be successful. And as evidenced He was not.

Now, enough of this TANGENT, which you cannot prove that God's words has been corrupted. In fact, we have "exactly" the same truth of scriptures that was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls over 200 years years before Christ walked the earth. Proven by the fact that our version of the Old Testament was indeed translated "verbatim" form that same script (The Septuagint), which indeed was even referenced in the writings of New Testament scripts which were placed to script in the 1st century AD by the followers of Christ. What difference does it make if "MAN" comes up with 2000 different versions of the Bible, Gods original words still have not been corrupted, if one simply finds them in "true" translations, because a true translation does not consider personal ideologies but merely interprets the original language as close to verbatim as possible. Now, concerning the false claim by you that the scriptures do not mention, God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit as "separate", you still have failed to answer. And when you do, please present scriptures to back up your retort, not YOUR OPINION.

You will indeed go to any length to call GOD a liar, won't you? You must, to present your false ideology as truth. Here is a true verbatim passage from God's Word -- Ps. 12:6-7, "The words of Jehovah are pure words; As sliver tried in a furnace on the earth, Purified seven times. Thou WILL KEEP THEM O JEHOVAH, thou wilt preserve them form this generation "FOR EVER"." Again, do you except us to believe "YOU", who is obviously a presenter of false doctrine, that God IS NOT CAPABLE OF KEEPING THIS PROMISE, or any others? I for one will not accept your lies, so that you might continue to present your false doctrine. This is indeed how God protects HIS TRUTH, by exposing the liars, that are goats trying to pass for sheep. BD
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BD and your completely ignoring the fact that the 1611 version of the King James is nothing like the version you have in your hand today.
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Old 04-19-2008, 03:35 PM
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religion is a con...

by the dom, if you are still checking this thread, then you still lost. Stupid.

Why don't you challenge on these other issues and we discuss them, but on this thread your ass was handed to you in the first three pages. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHA! loser.
How did I lose? Please explain for everyoone Nazi, I would love for everyone to once again see your logical mind at work.

What other issues? Do you mean my initial response that you NEVER responded to? You agreed that if you didn't respond to the post it would mean that you agreed with it, but then you said you didn't. Please explain.
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religion is a con...

by the dom, if you are still checking this thread, then you still lost. Stupid.

Why don't you challenge on these other issues and we discuss them, but on this thread your ass was handed to you in the first three pages. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHA! loser.
IHNR, you are really showing how "narrow" your focus is. You lack the ability to "empathize" and you have a fractured thought process that limits your ability to win any argument about anyhting. How did you find "AWE"? Did you go to search and hit "I am a dumbass and lose every argument I enter" and they sent you here to be humiliatied time and time again?
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