Originally Posted by ladyofmts

Rasta, good point, I don't believe in abortion, but I also won't condemn it. It's just like people who choose to have children, who really have no maternal or paternal insticts, and shouldn't have them in the first place.

Originally Posted by PaleRider

That sounds like the sort who didn't believe that hitler should be killing jews, or that stalin should be killing gypsys, or mao killing farmers but didn't condemn it either. All that is required for evil to happen is for good people to stand by and do nothing.

Originally Posted by monkeyinthemiddle

I find this thread nausiating by the fact that 95% of the posts written are by men.
Men have but one necessity in reproduction....it is when the child is born that their role comes into play, otherwise the process belongs to the woman for 9 months and then the rest of her life.
There are more bastard children walking this earth then there needs to be, why is this issue not as controversial to men as abortion is?
I dare all you men to call me a feminazi, feminist, antipatriarcal embittered female....well, some of it may apply but is not infinitely true.
First of all comparing abortion with capital punishment is absolutely stupid.
The term 'abortion' is named by a medical procedure that aborts the continuation of the production of a fetus in the womb.
This procedure terminates production of a fetus.
It is a legal procedure only up until 24 weeks, which in my opinion is way too long a period of time, this was the decision, the process, the said judged by men....
Too many young woman have abused this procedure, used this procedure as a form of birth control, who neglect any and all forms of birth control and for those who have waited until the fetus is fully formed -24weeks.
These selfish and indifferent choices are what has given the abortion procedure a bad reputation.
Do we recall the 'pregnant' mother of 5 drowning her children in a bathtub one by one?
In fact children die like this all the time and the first question on my mind is WHY?
The next question I ask is, why do women who don't want children bare them?
Because reproduction is the womans role, this is a role society rules her, this is the answer she will get from society and all religious organizations.
She is put on this earth soley to reproduce and any other ambition she has is selfish and of course influenced by feminist agendas.
When you see a successful man who is single, society accepts his carreer is demanding, he is a playboy and the proverbial he hasn't found the right woman...
When a successful woman is single society asks WHY?
She must be a lesbian, bitter, a spinster, ugly, fat, a slut, selfish, and a number of other reasons that have no bearing on the fact that she has made her own decision.
A successful fat man will have women, a successful fat woman is fat.
Society has big expectations of todays women.
She is going to be successful, be fit, a wonderful wife and she has the magnificent responsiblity of reproducing, she is the core of raising a family.
The responsibility a woman requires after she gives birth is beyond any academic degree she dreams to achieve.
This is why it is in the best interests of children that there are 2 parents present.
How do female teens allow themselves to get pregnant, give birth and then leave the baby on doorsteps, in garbage pails?
Why do lazy, looting minority woman have children every 3 years, with different men, to maintain a traditional welfare career?
Why do crazy, sick immigrant woman abort their female babies?
Why do uneducated and irresponsible humans have children then push them off to relatives, neglect them, beat them, kill them and/or remain totally ineffectual to the childs life?
Is this population control?
Heh, I don't think so, this is a burden, its the moral values in the role of reproduction which society neglects to hold high and to penetrate in the minds of our youth, our boys and girls.
Yeah, but we teach biology...
What about the youths who will never learn biology?
Who never learn the basic skills of moral values?
It is not abortion that is the crime, the crime is in the moral values that our society neglects to rule by.
I am very happy to see that the legislation is passed, this legislation that any female under the age of 18 will need parental consent to perform an abortion procedure....btw, legislated by a woman.
We need to take command of our youth and we have to STOP organizations like "planned parenthood" that will perform these procedures on our kids without adult consent.
For the boys, I suggest wearing condoms, vasectomies, cold showers and some self control.
What more men need to do in society is educate their sons and daughters from a male point of view.
BE INVOLVED>
Be responsible men, keep it in your pants.
Be THERE when the lines turn color.
BE responsible in relationships whether they are for zipless sex or for stability.
BE there for the nine months and the next 25 years, so you won't have to JUDGE or be appauled at the statistics and rates of abortion in this country.
And just maybe then, women like myself will have more tolerance for the men who want to dictate and then legislate what a womens choice is.

Originally Posted by Spitty

"For the boys, I suggest wearing condoms, vasectomies, cold showers and some self control."

Tell your girls more oral and anal That would stem the need for abortion.

Originally Posted by monkeyinthemiddle

No smartass, anal sex is the biggest cause for HIV transmittal.
The anal walls are sensitive and small lesions give great opportunity for the spread of the virus.
Same applies to oral sex, champ.
I tell my girls abstinance first, if all else fails A condom..
if he can't get one, he gets none!