+1 (borrowing from Dizzy.)

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How the soldier got into the military is not what I am debating, Abortion is just as sanctioned murder as war time killing. To say you are pro-life, then in the same breath support the killing of Iraqis, makes you a Hypocrite. Death is death. Some will say it was justified, it may have been, someone died unaturally. Was that God calling them home? Can he call a non-christian home?

Spitty, first this thread was about abortion.
Second, "the killing of Iraqis" is a travesty, but so are those that lost their lives fighting for someone else's freedoms. http://militarycity.com/valor/
Please don't retort with dead Iraqi bodies or dead fetuses.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyR41JbpL_g

I know, I am on point. I am talking to pro-lifers who support killing in other ways.

How about I retort with raped Iraqi girls/women

Spitty...I am pro-life, but also pro-death penality. There is no excuse for the raping of the Iraqi/women, just as there are no excuses for the beheading of coalition forces, neither justify the means. Damned if we do, damned if we don't, the beheadings wouldn't happen if we weren't in Iraq and neither would the rapes. Yes, Spitty, it is time to send our soldiers home.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyR41JbpL_g

How can one be pro-life, yet pro-death? Yes, time for your husband to be back home with his wife and kids. We just have to ignore the Hawks and that cut and run BS. Vietnam is just fine after the cut and run.

Spitty...I'm pro-life since I conceived my kids, I pro-death since a family member was murdered and only did 8 years in prison. The soldiers are on their 3rd and 4th rotations of Iraq, they aren't mentally ready to be back in the sand, maybe we should reinstate the draft? Ohh..that's right the Marines are doing that right now. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060822/..._usa_troops_dc

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Ephesians 5:15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyR41JbpL_g

When I think of the abortion issue, the first thought that comes to mind from a human perspective is how un-natural it is for the female gender to select the aborted method of getting rid of an unwanted child.

I think the choice of choosing abortions has more to do with social economics and environmental impacts, conditions and concerns. Studies have shown that when social and economic conditions are equitable and prosperous throughout the country, abortions decrease significantly.

However, when the economy takes a downward turn in terms of jobs and economic opportunities, then once again abortions increase.

This does not excuse nor justify the choice of abortion, however social and economic conditions play crucial roles in the reasons why women chose
abortion. In the end I believe the choice should lie with women.

After all its her body!!!!!! Mother nature fully intened for the female gender to have this power and choice. The mother nourishes and carries the child for nine months, w/o the mother the child has no chance for survival during the 9 months anyway.

For those of you who ask what does the father have to say in all this--the answer is NONE YA!!!, except for perhaps making a better decision with whom you mate with! Make sure as reasonably as possible that you both share the same beliefs on ABORTION.

Simply put if you don't believe in ABORTION, dont have one. However, mind your own business. After all you won't have to deal with the guilt and mental anguish of aborting a feteus; the individual who chose to abort must live with that decision. Just be glad it isn't you.

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Rasta, good point, I don't believe in abortion, but I also won't condemn it. It's just like people who choose to have children, who really have no maternal or paternal insticts, and shouldn't have them in the first place.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyR41JbpL_g

My beliefs on this issue came from Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun himself, the man who wrote the Roe decision. He was a brilliant man in my eyes, he really looked hard at this before he came to any conclusions. He had traveled to the Mayo Clinic and several other places consulting many people about abortion at the time this case was being decided. You all might want to look at his writings. In my eyes Blackmun was one of the great 'thinkers' of our time and was appointed to the court by Nixon as a CONSERVATIVE. Imagine that(?)

This is a good way of putting it.

For me, even where life 'begins' sits a bit different than all of you on here.