abortion - prove me wrong

oceanbreeze · #11 (**permalink**) 08-16-2006, 09:26 AM

I was always pro-choice before I had kids, I am now pro-life, except in the cases of rape, incest..ect. My decision honesty has nothing to do with my religious beliefs, it happened the moment I conceived. It also stems from the fact that I have also miscarried babies, I truly wanted, so I know that loss, and know how it feels even 14 years later. I can't imagine how it feels to intentionally to choose to end a life. However, to be a complete hypocrit, I am pro-death penality, again, nothing religious, just personal experience with crime.

hexum · #12 (**permalink**) 08-16-2006, 11:22 PM

hmmm... the most popular arguement ive heard from ppl and media is "its a womens choice what she wants to do with her body" and "none of your business"

"none of your business" --- that to me is just a "get lost, i'll do what i want without thinking about it or justifiying it" type answer. if some guy murders some other guy in a far off land, thats none of my business either. but nonetheless, it was still wrong! if somebody is getting hurt here, its gotta be condemned (Duh!)

"its a womens choice what she wants to do with her body" --- this is more than just her body! there is a whole other body growing inside of her! its clear these people have failed to consider the other life form besides the woman!

am i right or what?

oceanbreeze · #13 (**permalink**) 08-18-2006, 10:10 PM

Yes, hexum, you are right. But, it's also right for the 2 people who created the child to support the child.

Rhino24 · #14 (**permalink**) 08-21-2006, 08:52 PM

If abortion becomes totally legal, what do you think is going to happen? High school and college whores are going to have unprotected sex because it will lower the fear of them having a child.. why? Because they know if they do become unwantedly pregnant, they can simply kill their baby before its born. There are girls i've heard of that have had tens of abortions already.. its not even a big deal to them anymore. It's sick. Abortion is indeed murder. Not the kind where your putting someone through cruel and unbearing pain, but it is taking another life for no apparent reason other than because you were a slut, and therefore, murder.

For this continued debate which is obviously more of a female problem, I can understand why some ladies would want to have an abortion after being raped, but the fact is, thats not a good enough reason, and abortion must not be legalized.

Chateauroux · #15 (**permalink**) 08-21-2006, 11:19 PM

[quote=Rhino24;23317] There are girls i've heard of that have had tens of abortions already.. .

Tens of abortions?? Gimme a f*cking break!! Prove it! You want to re-post when you're sober?

clholloway20 · #16 (**permalink**) 08-22-2006, 08:03 AM

He is probably telling the truth. I went to school with a girl who had 6 or 7 before the drs told her if she had anymore, she would never be able to have kids again. Now she has 4 kids. SLUT! nuff said.

oceanbreeze · #17 (**permalink**) 08-22-2006, 09:32 AM

If a first time post was intended to offend someone it did, scientifically and personally. Bold letters are my opinons.

A man or woman becomes a whore due to low self esteem.
1. .Main Entry: 1whore
Pronunciation: 'hor, 'hur
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English hore, from Old English hOre; akin to Old Norse hOra whore, hOrr adulterer, Latin carus dear -- more at CHARITY
1 : a woman who engages in sexual acts for money : PROSTITUTE; also : a promiscuous or immoral woman
2 : a male who engages in sexual acts for money
3 : a venal or unscrupulous person
A man or woman becomes a whore due to low self esteem.

Human reproduction/conception takes a male and female.
2. Main Entry: re·pro·duc·tion
Pronunciation: "rE-pr&-'d&k-sh&n
Function: noun
1 : the act or process of reproducing; specifically : the process by which plants and animals give rise to offspring and which fundamentally consists of the segregation of a portion of the parental body by a sexual or an asexual process and its subsequent growth and differentiation into a new individual

Rape: http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/rape
Definition
Rape is defined as sexual intercourse forced on a person without his or her permission.

incest:
Main Entry: in·cest
Pronunciation: 'in-"sest
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin incestus sexual impurity, from incestus impure, from in- + castus pure -- more at CASTE
: sexual intercourse between persons so closely related that they are forbidden by law to marry; also : the statutory crime of such a relationship

Multiple abortions: http://www.righthealth.com/search?t=...assic&v=Health

Main Entry: abor·tion
Pronunciation: &-'bor-sh&n
Function: noun
1 : the termination of a pregnancy after, accompanied by, resulting in, or closely followed by the death of the embryo or fetus: as a : spontaneous expulsion of a human fetus during the first 12 weeks of gestation -- compare MISCARRIAGE b : induced expulsion of a human fetus c : expulsion of a fetus by a domestic animal often due to infection at any time before completion of pregnancy -- compare CONTAGIOUS ABORTION
2 : MONSTROSITY
3 : arrest of development (as of a part or process) resulting in imperfection; also : a result of such arrest

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Originally Posted by Rhino24

If abortion becomes totally legal, what do you think is going to happen? High school and college whores are going to have unprotected sex because it will lower the fear of them having a child.. why? Because they know if they do become unwantedly pregnant, they can simply kill their baby before its born. There are girls i've heard of that have had tens of abortions already.. its not even a big deal to them anymore. It's sick. Abortion is indeed murder. Not the kind where your putting someone through cruel and unbearing pain, but it is taking another life for no apparent reason other than because you were a slut, and therefore, murder.

For this continued debate which is obviously more of a female problem, I can understand why some ladies would want to have an abortion after being raped, but the fact is, thats not a good enough reason, and abortion must not be legalized.

oceanbreeze · #18 (**permalink**) 08-22-2006, 01:15 PM

Rhino: Looks like you blame teen pregnancies, abortion, and whoring on Rap Music.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

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Originally Posted by Rhino24

If abortion becomes totally legal, what do you think is going to happen? High school and college whores are going to have unprotected sex because it will lower the fear of them having a child.. why? Because they know if they do become unwantedly pregnant, they can simply kill their baby before its born. There are girls i've heard of that have had tens of abortions already.. its not even a big deal to them anymore. It's sick. Abortion is indeed murder. Not the kind where your putting someone through cruel and unbearing pain, but it is taking another life for no apparent reason other than because you were a slut, and therefore, murder.

For this continued debate which is obviously more of a female problem, I can understand why some ladies would want to have an abortion after being raped, but the fact is, thats not a good enough reason, and abortion must not be legalized.

Spitty · #19 (**permalink**) 08-22-2006, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hexum

i would like to hear some people oppose my current views on abortion.
it seems so damn wrong to me, but maybe im missing some information or something, as i dont know too much about the technicalities and specifics of the procedure(s). also i think that this issue pretty much boils down to religious beliefs, so there probably will be no right or wrong answer, but id like to hear the other side of the arguement

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how can you say that abortion is any different than killing anyone else?
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first off, we can agree that the "unborn" is ALIVE, right? its growing... you can look it up on webster's, the definition fits... that is life, isn't it?

secondly, we can agree that the "unborn" is HUMAN, right? no more or less human than any of us... we've all been through all those stages before

, and if we had been aborted, we wouldn't be here on the forum right now. am i wrong?

now if what we are talking about here is both "human" and "alive", how can you justify going through a procedure of killing the human life. how can you say that abortion is any different than killing anyone else? sure, the "unborn" is alot younger than most human lives, but besides that. is it because it's not shaped like us?? because it can't talk?? because it is not conscious yet?? what are these reasons?

i know of reasons "why" somebody would have an abortion, you dont need to give me these. but i want to know "how" you can say that a human life wasn't killed
thankyou

Let me just say this, if we are willing to send soldiers off to another land and kill, why should aborting a fetus at the wishes of the mother be any different?

Areyouforreal · #20 (**permalink**) 08-22-2006, 02:12 PM

The soldiers volunteer to be in the Military. The unborn baby is not even given a choice