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Old 08-28-2006, 09:10 PM
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The wealth will continue to be in the hands of a small number of people around the world (the U.S. included) so long as the wealthy continue to socialize together, vote together, inter-marry (Money-Marrying Money), conduct business together, lobby and legislate for their own best interest to conserve and ensure their way of life, thinking and beliefs.

As you can see, there are no wedge issues nor social issues that separate the wealthy to take them off course or to impede them from achieving their one GOAL!!!! STAY WEALTHY AT ANY COST.

The New World Order is just a grand Globalization scheme to further consolidated wealth and power, hyper-greed and to ensure the status quo remains in their favor.

The wealthy globalist and Heads of State are able to achieve this obscene wealth and power b/c they have figured out the how to continue and exploit the oldest game in town----DIVIDE AND CONQUER (D & C) THE MASSES.

You need to look no further about the D&C phenomena than what has gone on in the U.S. Incumbent politicians, heads of state, and wealthy corporatist, D&C the American worker and voters in the income brackets of $15,000 to $100,00 so as to ensure that this income bracket vote against their best interest and at all cost ensure voter solidarity in this income bracket never takes full effect.

Another example is how Liberals, Conservatives, Moderates, Lefties, Right Wingers, Religious Right, Religious Left, Abortions supporters, Anti-abortionist, Gay Rights, Gay Marriage, Racism, Militias, Unions, Right to Work, etc-- the list goes on-and-on.

The single point all these groups and isssue debators have in comon is our income level. Our moral and mental strength, our political influence, and our financial power, our 21st century future---all hinges upon how the American citzens who numbers are in the 100 millions with income levels of 15K to 100K can somehow figure out, we are all in this together, stop voting against our best interest, and realize we are only as strong as the weakest among us.

However, we allow the Keeper of the Message (The Globalist/Corporatist) to divide us all to the point to where we are useless and powerless to stop Emenient Domain, The North Free Trade/American Highway, The New World Order, Out Sourcing, NAFTA, CAFTA, Ensuring Pension Plan Promises are kept, Access to Student Loans and College Grants to send our children and ourselves to College. Once again, the list goes-on-and-on.

Even I as post in this forum I realize that the more we dis-agree with one another on the afore mentioned wedge issues, the more I know deep down that we have more in common than we realize-----WE LOVE OUR COUNTRY, WE LOVE OUR FAMILIES AND WE ALL WANT TO LIVE THE AMERICAN DREAM.
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Old 09-02-2006, 12:05 PM
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Even I as post in this forum I realize that the more we dis-agree with one another on the afore mentioned wedge issues, the more I know deep down that we have more in common than we realize-----WE LOVE OUR COUNTRY, WE LOVE OUR FAMILIES AND WE ALL WANT TO LIVE THE AMERICAN DREAM.

Rasta, yes you are right, we all want to live the American dream, but then again some of our population has gotten caught up in the entitlement program and has forgotten that one of the reasons immagrintes want to come to this country is to find work and better themselves. Lets take back our country and put everyone back to work.
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Old 09-02-2006, 10:01 PM
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Fifteen years ago people were saying the same thing. This NWO stuff isn't new. If what you say is true, then why hasn't China been forced to assimilate? They certainly don't subscribe to a western philosophy. Just who is running the show here, is it the UN who can't even police third world countries or is it secret organizations such as the Bohemian Grove and the Illuminati? Can you show us any proof that a NWO conspiracy is happening?
Well, I can't prove anything, except the fact we have evolved into BIG government.
Our imigration/INS has maintained an inept and corrupt agency, our borders remain unsecure!
The UN And Council of Foreign Relations have maintained a criminal and inept foreign policy and they seem untouchable and protected by....
BIG government.
So a new world order doesn't seem so much a conspiracy but a "goal".
An inevitability.
This is where there is no difference between tweedledumocrats and tweedledeerepugs!
This is where both parties meet in their agendas.
Big government is bad.
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Old 09-02-2006, 10:52 PM
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Well, I can't prove anything, except the fact we have evolved into BIG government.
Our imigration/INS has maintained an inept and corrupt agency, our borders remain unsecure!
The UN And Council of Foreign Relations have maintained a criminal and inept foreign policy and they seem untouchable and protected by....
BIG government.
So a new world order doesn't seem so much a conspiracy but a "goal".
An inevitability.
This is where there is no difference between tweedledumocrats and tweedledeerepugs!
This is where both parties meet in their agendas.
Big government is bad.
First, the US government has pretty much been growing since the beginning. With increased land and a growing population a growing beauracracy is inevitable. I agree that big government is bad, which leads to the second point.

I never said anything about a big government. I said that this NWO stuff is nonsense. Go ahead and cite the UN as an example of the NWO. They are ignored in many cases by the US, they are incapable of even policing third world countries, they are ripe with corruption and ineptitude, and they obviously do not set our agenda. The US pays attention to the UN because it is important in the court of public opinion and world wide opinion, although it hasn't helped our image any.

The NWO would require the US to give up it's sovereignty, which is not going to happen. You do have to be a conspiracy theorist to believe that the goal of the US government is to hand over sovereignty to anyone.
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Old 09-03-2006, 08:43 AM
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First, the US government has pretty much been growing since the beginning. With increased land and a growing population a growing beauracracy is inevitable. I agree that big government is bad, which leads to the second point.

I never said anything about a big government. I said that this NWO stuff is nonsense. Go ahead and cite the UN as an example of the NWO. They are ignored in many cases by the US, they are incapable of even policing third world countries, they are ripe with corruption and ineptitude, and they obviously do not set our agenda. The US pays attention to the UN because it is important in the court of public opinion and world wide opinion, although it hasn't helped our image any.

The NWO would require the US to give up it's sovereignty, which is not going to happen. You do have to be a conspiracy theorist to believe that the goal of the US government is to hand over sovereignty to anyone.
Dom, I agree that the UN is a mess and should find another country to be the host. Also I don't think that as ordinary Americans we will every hand over our sovereignty, but I do beleive that some of elected officals would if they could. The 3 that beleive would hand over our country to our enemys are Kerry, H Clinton and Ted Kennedy.
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Old 09-22-2006, 11:10 PM
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Yes there will be a New World Order and a One World Government. And no one will believe that there are evil forces behind it, because they will be "brought together for a good cause", one catastrophe at a time until all the players are in place.
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