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07-08-2006, 05:33 AM
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Don't get me wrong I believe him and I know the truth.
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07-08-2006, 12:29 PM
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To believe is not enogh.
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Don't get me wrong I believe him and I know the truth.
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The Devil believes and trembles.....it is not enogh to believe.
Many hear and know the truth......it is not enogh to know the truth.
The text below explains....the verse before it reads: " If ye continue in my word, then ye are my disciples indeed. And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free"
John chapter 8 verses 31-32
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07-08-2006, 05:21 PM
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The Absolute Deity of the Lord Jesus Christ No11
"For unto us lv ,
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07-08-2006, 05:49 PM
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The Absolute Deity of the Lord Jesus Christ No11
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace"
Isaiah chapter 9 verse 6
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07-08-2006, 10:06 PM
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Compassion, Mercy, Love, and Humility is what will bring people to Christ and spread the Gospel not beating everyone with the Bible Truth
Faith, Hope, and Love but the greatest of these is Love.
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07-08-2006, 10:20 PM
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Compassion, Mercy, Love, and Humility is what will bring people to Christ and spread the Gospel not beating everyone with the Bible Truth
Faith, Hope, and Love but the greatest of these is Love.
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Very well said 'forreal
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07-08-2006, 10:28 PM
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But here AYFR, it is expected that the bible and its verse has any portent to be quoted, so I come here to be bashed. I appreciate the understanding, so far though Truth has me hooked as I cannot fight his words with simple imagination. I try but it is difficult indeed. In another thread I would use more fuel but here I cannot.
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07-08-2006, 10:34 PM
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I forget that every country is different. Over here beating the word into you just doesn't work it really turns people away.
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07-08-2006, 11:30 PM
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Truth's mistake is that he believes the Devil is this conglomerate of evil and the like, when it can be simply that which can argue the truth even when it is wrong. So the needs of the individual outway the needs of the whole, seems to be what I read from the Isaiah passage.
Wonderful to the individual; Counsellor to the soul; The mighty God in reply; The everlasting Father to a child and the Prince of Peace within. With an entire world out there this does't seem to stretch right across it.
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07-09-2006, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Areyouforreal
Compassion, Mercy, Love, and Humility is what will bring people to Christ and spread the Gospel not beating everyone with the Bible Truth
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Can you tell me who told you that?
Its not written in the Bible in the context in which you are applying it?
This is how people come to Christ......
" Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."
Romans chapter 10 verses 13-17
There are some well meaning people who seem to be Christians but have there own ideas of what the scriptures teach. They dont want to upset others and they tolerate false teaching. If someone puts an emphasis on real Christian teaching and doctrine, they start to get critical.
They have adopted the modern idea that Christians must be nice people and respect the heresys propergated by pseudo christians....not so.
If you dont like what is being said on the postings dont respond. If you want to disagree do so but explain why. Do not quote scripture in the wrong context.
I have started a topic here on the Deity of Christ because although theres a lot of you that claim to be Christians but you do not accept the fundamentals of Christianity. No one has commented on these verses from the Bible because they are irrefuitable. You pick up on nonsense and judge peoples motives. There are a further 288 verses that confirm this teaching and if you read them you will see it clearly.
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